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Old 10-22-02, 11:12 AM   #1
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Maybe I don't need a vasectomy

From the October 28, 2002 TIME magazine:

Sex and the Serious Cyclist

I'm thinking about riding standing up from now on.
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Old 10-22-02, 11:34 AM   #2
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impotence is different from infertility.

the article says that too much time on the bike can cause impotence, which is failure to have erections. that means no/bad sex, but you are still fertile and able to have children, through means such as artificial insemination

that's different from infertility, where the sperm are either abnormal or the number of sperm is greatly reduced so as to compromise the ability to succesfully fertilize an egg. vasectomy is an artificial way of causing infertility.
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Old 10-22-02, 11:39 AM   #3
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Bikes cost less than babies. Think of that 200K you'll spend raising that kid through college. That will pay for hundreds of bikes.
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Old 10-22-02, 11:40 AM   #4
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does this mean being called "numb nuts" is a
complimentary term (lots of saddle time?).

Sorry I couldn't resist.

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Old 10-22-02, 11:51 AM   #5
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Bikes cost less than babies. Think of that 200K you'll spend raising that kid through college. That will pay for hundreds of bikes.
LOL what a refreshingly interesting perspective hahaha

thanks for makin me laugh
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Old 10-22-02, 01:51 PM   #6
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Dr. Roger Minkow, a physician who designs bike seats.........like the one on mine

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Old 10-22-02, 03:06 PM   #7
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I don't know about you guys out there, but cycling in my system has made my sex life very very active , my blood is the base of the "Viagra', well to much information.....
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Old 10-23-02, 06:19 AM   #8
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Does this mean that if I can still get it up I'm not riding enough?
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Old 10-23-02, 05:29 PM   #9
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Funny but sometimes when I see some woman wheeling her baby in a stroller, I think. "Nope ,those are NOT the wheels I want!" Yep, three cheers for modern science!
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Old 10-23-02, 11:33 PM   #10
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I would think that if you commonly go numb in "the area", then something important is getting too much pressure and will eventually cause long term damage. But I ain't no doctor. Nor English major.
I think that the physical benefits (overall health and toned and healthy looking body) and mental benefits outweigh the risks if you are concience of what is going on down there after long rides.
I use the split saddle and I think that particular design certainly doesn't hurt. I never experienced numbness on a regular saddle but hadn't nearly done the milage as I have on the split. After about ~4000 miles, I've only felt numbness on less than a handfull of occasions which were only for a short time after a long steep climb.
And I am fully functioning downstairs. Hey Ladies! Just kidding....well, not about the functioning...you know what I mean.




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Old 10-24-02, 05:54 AM   #11
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This is only news to non-cyclists. Dr. Goldstein jumped on the bandwagon in '97, but it's been common knowledge among cyclists for years. Oops, my bad. We won't know until Dr. Resnick finishes his study. Oy vey.

How long 'til someone starts marketing "Goldsteins ergonomic, anatomic, nose-less saddle?"
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Old 10-24-02, 08:13 AM   #12
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The number one cause of numb-nut-syndrome in bicyclists is having the handlebars too low. Raise them bars !!!!
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Old 10-24-02, 08:38 AM   #13
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According to my doctor the #1 cause of impotence is a lack of aerobic exercise. The most commonly recommended exercise needs to be low impact--bicycles.

One report said that about 10% of all American males have erectile problems. The good doctor says "up to 4%" of male cyclists may have the same problem.

I guess they don't teach math in med school, but I know how I'll bet.
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Old 10-24-02, 11:07 AM   #14
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I just happened to read the following this morning in my Road Bike Rider newsletter, put out by Ed Pavelka and Fred Matheny on RoadBikeRider.com.

Sue

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1. NEWS FROM ED & FRED

He's back!

Irwin Goldstein, the Boston urologist who got more than his
15 minutes of fame in 1997, seems to be resurrecting his
horrors-of-cycling campaign. He was featured in an Oct. 15
Wall Street Journal article and Time magazine just
interviewed him, too.

You may remember Dr. G, who once proclaimed: "There are only
two kinds of male cyclists -- those who are impotent and
those who will be impotent."

He even did a study and reported that cyclists are four
times more likely than runners to suffer erectile dysfunction. Sounds like real trouble -- until you see that the ED rate was just
1 in 100 runners and 4 in 100 riders.

Somehow they forgot to mention that in the headlines.

Goldstein eventually softened his stance. He acknowledged
that, crashes aside, it isn't bicycling per se that might
mess up men (and women), it's the bicycle seat.

He wasn't the only person to recognize this distinction. So
we got a ton of saddles anatomically designed to reduce
pressure on the nerves and blood vessels that pass through
the crotch.

These new seats made cycling-related ED nearly a non
issue. But now comes a study from the National Institute for
Occupational Safety and Health that reports numbness and
erectile dysfunction among bike cops.

Read closely again: This research involved only 22 men, and
the cops were on their bikes about six hours a day --
probably three times longer than most of us dedicated roadies
average. Still, the media has turned the spotlight back on Goldstein, remembering him as cycling's No. 1 alarmist.

We know Dr. G. He's an affable guy, full of energy. We like
him. We just wish he'd gained a better understanding of our sport
since his last go-round.

Consider his recommendations, according to the WSJ article:

---Limit cycling to three hours a week
---Sit upright on the seat
---Stand often during rides

We think he's batting .333. Standing frequently is an easy
and natural way to relieve pressure and aid circulation. Sitting
upright with full weight on the saddle is not. And if you have the
right equipment, position and technique, you should be able to
ride as much as you want without undue risk.

To read our advice on saddle selection, see the new article
we just posted at www.roadbikerider.com/free%20articles.htm.
Then share it with your bike club or anyone who may be concerned about this issue.
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Old 10-25-02, 10:57 AM   #15
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Typing without a break for a long time, driving for a long time, sitting in an aircraft without gymnastic, etc. can cause health damage.

Any repetitive physical activity may cause RSI (repetitive stress injury). This is not a news. Just make breaks every 5 - 10 km for stretching and upper body exercises.

We are to be aware that the automobile producing and oil industries are omni-powerful and omnipresent. They can hire any quack, who for couple of shares will tell anything.

There is nothing, nothing more health damaging nowadays than the river of cars on your street, which emits toxic rubber dust, exhaust, and noise. This quack keeps silence about it.

A cyclist, which goes carfree, causes a lot of fiscal losses to these industries. We talk about thousands dollars per cyclist.

It is like Microsoft being afraid of Linux. Linux is much weaker, but still MS criticizes Linux here and there. Just to be on the safe side. Even though every minute on TV or every page in the big magazine costs a lot of money.

Am I talking nonsense? There is an ad of Lexus in the "Minority Report". They get even into a blockbuster movie easily.
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Old 10-25-02, 11:43 AM   #16
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Typing without a break for a long time, driving for a long time, sitting in an aircraft without gymnastic, etc. can cause health damage.
But when the health risk includes Mr. Winky .... well, that takes it to an entirely different level!
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But when the health risk includes Mr. Winky .... well, that takes it to an entirely different level!
On the other hand if one follows the advice, stops cycling, gets fat and unattractive, then he may end up having the possibility, but not having anyone, who would like to participate...
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Old 10-25-02, 01:12 PM   #18
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On the other hand if one follows the advice, stops cycling, gets fat and unattractive, then he may end up having the possibility, but not having anyone, who would like to participate...
Good point!!!!!
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Old 10-26-02, 08:58 PM   #19
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I have two parallel thoughts about this; the first one is that in the last 30 years, various "innovations" in road bike design have taken a whole lot of vertical compliance out of them. Compare, say,a 1967 Masi Special to a 2002 Cannondale. Masi has a frame of thin steel tubes with about a 41" wheelbase, 17" chainstays, lushly raked fork, riding on wheels built with 36 skinny spokes laced to box-section rims with silk sewup tires glued on. C-dale has a frame built of big fat aluminum tubes, a carbon fork with "aero style" wide blades, a set of wheels built with deep-section "aero" rims and shod with skinny, little 700 x stupid clinchers--chances are you won't feel your genitalia after a few thousand miles on the Cannondale over bad roads; the frame materials, geometry, and wheel components just plain absorb less road shock compared to the older bike!
My other theory is that, hell, there are one or two doctors who lost their significant others to bike salespeople, or pro racers, or shop owners, etc., and are just taking it out on their ex's new squeeze!
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I Compare, say,a 1967 Masi Special to a 2002 Cannondale.
Anyone who chooses a Cannondale over a 1967 Masi deserves
numb nuts!
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Old 10-27-02, 05:38 AM   #21
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excerpeted from Transportation in China -Copyright ©1999-2002: ChinaUnique by Premier Star Co.

...The real traffic jams in major cities in China are caused by the sheer number of bicycles. Besides walking, the main source of transportation is the bicycle. Seldom new and often not pretty, they provide the basic means of transportation to the average person in the PRC to work, shopping and leisure activities...For 1.2billion people in China, there are probably well over 1 billion bikes....

Impotency, infertility from bicycles, hmmmmmmmm :confused:
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Old 10-27-02, 10:35 AM   #22
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that's just what you get from too many people peddling their asses.






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