Amber side reflectors
I was reading the Pa Vehicular laws and was surprised to learn that in order to be legal the bike must have “amber side reflectors” that are visible from 500 ft. I’m surprised because most bikes are sold with white spoke reflectors and most adult cyclists (me included) ride without them.
Now, I want to be totally legal, and I think side reflectors probably are a good idea. Cagers see those reflectors going around and know right away that it’s a bike. I think that it would be neat to have something reflective on a spoke that could be seen from the side and (hopefully) the back. So here’s the question. Are there any amber side reflectors that are available but look better than the ones sold with the kids bikes? |
Back when I was doing a lot of pre-dawn commuting I put reflective tape on the rims of my bike.
I used reflective tape I picked up at the hardware store, but this is an interesting site with all kinds of tape. http://www.identi-tape.com/eng-sr1.html |
sounds like an outdated law put onto the books by lawmakers that have no cognizance of currently available bicycle safety equipment.
I like the look of spoke reflectors at night, safety first! but maybe they need to be amber and made of carbon fiber to catch on.... |
Originally Posted by Bekologist
sounds like an outdated law put onto the books by lawmakers that have no cognizance of currently available bicycle safety equipment.
I like the look of spoke reflectors at night, safety first! but maybe they need to be amber and made of carbon fiber to catch on.... |
Read Forrester on side reflectors.
Alternatively: 1. Consider the usefulness of a side reflector that can be seen by a driver, approaching you at right angles from 500' away. Where will you be when he arrives at the spot where you were? 2. What is the maximum angle the reflector will reflect a beam of light back to the driver's eyes? Unless it is curved, it won't show up in his headlights except a 90 degrees. In other words, until it is too late. That's why you need front lights so that he/she can see you approaching on the road they wish to enter. As other posters have said - it was a law created by the ignorant. |
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I don't believe Forrester and his belief in the complete ineffectiveness of side reflectors. There are PLENTY of bicycling scenarios where side visibility of bikers is an asset- like, EVERY 4 way stop....
'flecco tape applied coincentricly around seatstays, seat tube or fork are all visible at close to 360 degrees and make a bike visible at much greater angles than wheel reflectors. Wheel reflectors, which still look visible as all get out crossing a car's path, for example, crossing a busy arterial from a side street...... |
Originally Posted by CommuterRun
Back when I was doing a lot of pre-dawn commuting I put reflective tape on the rims of my bike.
I used reflective tape I picked up at the hardware store, but this is an interesting site with all kinds of tape. http://www.identi-tape.com/eng-sr1.html I'll have to research the laws more to see what I must do to comply. |
Originally Posted by atbman
Read Forrester on side reflectors.
Alternatively: 1. Consider the usefulness of a side reflector that can be seen by a driver, approaching you at right angles from 500' away. Where will you be when he arrives at the spot where you were? 2. What is the maximum angle the reflector will reflect a beam of light back to the driver's eyes? Unless it is curved, it won't show up in his headlights except a 90 degrees. In other words, until it is too late. That's why you need front lights so that he/she can see you approaching on the road they wish to enter. As other posters have said - it was a law created by the ignorant. I’m contemplating reflectors IN ADITION to all the other things. They do no harm. I have seen the loopdy loop of bike reflectors in my headlights and there is no mistaking that visual cue – you Know that’s a bike ahead. Hey every little bit helps! |
I'd like to see spoke reflectors that are a round ball so that it would be visible from any angle. That's probably impractical from a weight, wind resistance standpoint.
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The amber side reflectors requirement is ambiguous. The amber side reflectors requirement does not specifically state that the amber reflectors must be visible from the left and right sides of the bicycle, yet the headlight and rear reflector requirements explicitly state the directions from which they must be visible.
I am not a lawyer, but it appears to me that the little amber reflectors on my pedals satisfy the amber side reflector requirements. The text of the relevant subsection of the Pennsylvania Uniform Vehicle Code appears below (emphases mine). The pdf file from the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation (http://www.dot.state.pa.us/BIKE/WEB/docs/PAbikelaws.pdf) even contains a comment on the relevant subsection, but the comment does not address the ambiguity in the side reflectors requirement. Section 3507. Lamps or other equipment on pedalcycles. (a) Lamps and reflectors. -- Every pedalcycle when in use between sunset and sunrise shall be equipped on the front with a lamp which emits a beam of white light intended to illuminate the pedalcycle operator's path and visible from a distance of at least 500 feet to the front, a red reflector facing to the rear which shall be visible at least 500 feet to the rear, and an amber reflector on each side. Operators of pedalcycles may supplement the required front lamp with a white flashing lamp, light-emitting diode or similar device to enhance their visibility to other traffic and with a lamp emitting a red flashing lamp, light emitting diode or similar device visible from a distance of 500 feet to the rear. A lamp or lamps worn by the operator of a pedalcycle shall comply with the requirements of this subsection if the lamp or lamps can be seen at the distances specified. Comment: Many car-bike crashes occur at night and involve a poorly illuminated bicyclist. Bicyclists should understand that headlamps serve two purposes: a) primarily, they advise other road users of their presence (vitally important to prevent unsuspecting motorists from cutting across the paths of cyclists they cannot even detect), b) secondarily, illuminate the bicyclist's path. |
Originally Posted by spunkyruss
The amber side reflectors requirement is ambiguous.
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Originally Posted by MikeR
(why don't they make the helmet shell out of reflective plastic?).
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I have seen riders with little blinkies that fit over the valve stem, and the light is quite noticeable and distinctive from the side during the rotation of the tire.
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True retroreflectors (that look like they have a lot of little pyramids inside) will reflect back to the light source up to a certain angle. No need to be at 90º to see them. Try it with a strong flashlight some time. In addition, most good wheel relectors have the plane of the reflector angled to increase the visibility.
I do at least half of my riding in the dark and think that ANYTHING that increases your visibility is good. |
This is the only thing I have found that is good.
http://www.coolflashlights.com/biking-flashlights.html Combined with a cateye LD1000 on the rear and flash back bar lights, drivers from the side have 1 amber and 2 red reference points. Looks real cool when you drive by a window and can see your profile. |
Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
This is the only thing I have found that is good.
http://www.coolflashlights.com/biking-flashlights.html Combined with a cateye LD1000 on the rear and flash back bar lights, drivers from the side have 1 amber and 2 red reference points. Looks real cool when you drive by a window and can see your profile. That's the 3rd time today I heard good things about the Cateye LD 1000. Sure looks interesting! |
Bummer, they aren't carrying the amber on the top light any more. Looks like won't be available too much longer. The bottom one is new and might work, but doesn't look as good as the top one, and doesn't have a bike mount adapter. Red in the front is not good.
I wish I could find another source for the top light. They come with an adapter that mounts on the front forks perfectly. Maybe someone can google better than I can and find a new source for this light. |
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