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Old 06-17-03, 10:29 PM   #101
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Old 06-18-03, 01:47 AM   #102
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I appreciate your imput, but being a scientist myself, I was wondering if you have actually ridden the bike?
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I think my neighbor has one. If so, I'll give it a ride and let ya know.
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Oh My....I just saw this infommercial on TV this morning.........What a monstrosity.

I couldn't believe how much they lied and distorted facts. If nothing else...this should prove to people to NEVER buy anything from TV...It's all lies and junk.


PS - This thread will never die. It serves as a PSA for bicycle consumers everywhere.
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Looks like it's been a while since anyone posted here, but I wanted to because I was thinking about getting a Landrider and when I went to the web to try to get some info on them I found this thread on a Yahoo search. I just wanted to post here incase anyone else like me finds this thread. I am in what an earlier post described as "the Landrider target market"..over 50, just want to get a little fun and expand my exercise program and was intimidated by the whole shift thing. I remember ten and fifteen speeds as being way too complicated. Turns out bikes have changed. I ended up getting a Raleigh with 21 speeds. It turns out that more speeds are less complicated, not more, because having a rear hub with more cogs gives more options when the chain is on each front cog. As it was pointed out to me, "you're going to have the chain on the middle front cog most of the time. You put it in the little cog if you're going uphill and the big cog if you're going downhill or trying to catch somebody". That sort of demistified it for me. Also, forget those little levers that you had to reach down and try to figure out. Everything is thumb toggle or grip shift now. Of course, you still have to know when to shift and how, but it's a lot easier than it used to be. And you are in control of the shifting. I think that's a plus. I've got a grip shift that even has a little window to tell me what gear I'm in, front hub on the left, rear cog on the right. No more guessing. Now to the bottom line. For about the same price I would have paid for the landrider plus shipping, I got what I think is a better bike, plus a helmet, plus a bike rack and saddle bags, (I ride to work about 4 miles when it's nice) plus a bike lock and a nifty little folding bike tool kit, plus a pump, a headlamp, and water bottle and holder. I mean..I got all set up. Landrider, who needs it?

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I work at a tv station and am a cyclist. The guy that works in the room next to me is a cyclist also and one of my riding buddies. How much fun do you think it is to be a cyclist and be paid to have to watch this monstrosity of an infomercial over and over again? I hate this damn bike. If shifting is too much of an intellectual excercise for you, go ss. ( That would be single speed to the un-initiated). I'm not really a bike snob or anything, I just hate the propaganda in this infomercial.
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The difference between a bike like this and an automatic car is that the car actually knows what it's doing (to an extent), this doesn't. A car will select the optimum gear based on many factors. It can pick a gear for performance, or economy.

From what I understand, this bike simply selects a gear based on the rear wheel rpm. Not only will it remain in gear when coming to a stop unless you do some intricate sort of braking method (imagine taking off from the lights in top gear ), but it will probably be in the wrong gear when climbing hills. I like to spin at high rpm when going up hills, but how does this bike know that?

I bet it also picks the worst possible time to change gear, like when you're standing on the pedals

Although I have to admit that an automatic bike would be interesting to ride, as long as it worked the way I want it to.
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I like to spin at high rpm when going up hills, but how does this bike know that?

I bet it also picks the worst possible time to change gear, like when you're standing on the pedals
That's also my biggest concern with these bikes, added to the fact that my legs will seek different gears on a given hill after 200km than they would after 20km. Does this bike understand that?

I think I'll continue to trust my legs for a while yet.
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That's also my biggest concern with these bikes, added to the fact that my legs will seek different gears on a given hill after 200km than they would after 20km. Does this bike understand that?

I think I'll continue to trust my legs for a while yet.
I've seen two Landriders the past few weeks so they are selling folks. From what I understand, once your RPM's go down, the Landrider starts shifting down for you. In theory, this is supposed to work but what actually happens is that as your're going uphill, you better not stand on the peddals as the bike will be shifting down and you could damage the drive train.
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Old 04-26-04, 10:18 AM   #112
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Alot of good replies, after much thought this bike is alot better than a depot store bike.
well, from the look of the frame.. it looks a lot like one of those sportmart bike.. K2 Bayside Comfort bike... but the price tag sure isn't the same... the K2 is only $179.00 and it's 21 speeds.
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Old 04-26-04, 09:50 PM   #113
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Enough with all the landrider bashing! Some of you guys are probably in-the-closet landrider owners anyways. Just admit it; the landrider is ahead of itís time and most of you just aren't ready for it yet; hate often is the product of jealousy.
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i just found out my co-worker bought a landrider last month. him and his wife rides it over the weekend. they are in their late 50's and this bike does the trick for them. he liked it becuase it's very easy to ride compared to his Giant speed bikes. plus it's something that him and his wife can do together. so i'm happy for him.
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Enough with all the landrider bashing! Some of you guys are probably in-the-closet landrider owners anyways. Just admit it; the landrider is ahead of itís time and most of you just aren't ready for it yet; hate often is the product of jealousy.
The jig's up guys. We've been outed! Let's all fess up.

I admit I ride my Landrider all the way around my block. Well, maybe not quite all the way because that little hill is really too much effort so I get my wife to bring the SUV and together we load up the Landrider and she hauls me and the bike up about four houses to the top of the hill. Going back downhill sure is fun though. Sometimes the Landrider gets up to almost 10 miles and hour as I bomb down the hill in my aero tuck.

I once tried to walk up the hill pushing my Landrider, but it was just too hard. The Landrider is just too heavy on account of that it's so well constructed and I had to take a break halfway up.

The best thing about my Landrider is that I don't have to look down to see it shifting gears because I can hear it quite clearly. That's good since I can't lean over far enough to see around my butt without almost falling over anyway. The worst thing about my Landrider is that those guys at my LBS, Stuck Up Bikes, can't work on it. They claim that the bike has a bad design, but I know better. It's because they just don't know how to deal with modern technology.

I'm thinking about getting an electric motor assist for my Landrider. Any of the other Landriders out there install one? It sure would be nice to be able to ride all the way around the block by myself!
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Well, maybe not quite all the way because that little hill is really too much effort so I get my wife to bring the SUV and together we load up the Landrider and she hauls me and the bike up about four houses to the top of the hill. Going back downhill sure is fun though. Sometimes the Landrider gets up to almost 10 miles and hour as I bomb down the hill in my aero tuck.
Believe me sir, if you have a decent road or MTB, you'll be going up faster than 10mph(w/o the SUV) and go downhill several times faster.

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The best thing about my Landrider is that I don't have to look down to see it shifting gears because I can hear it quite clearly. That's good since I can't lean over far enough to see around my butt without almost falling over anyway. The worst thing about my Landrider is that those guys at my LBS, Stuck Up Bikes, can't work on it. They claim that the bike has a bad design, but I know better. It's because they just don't know how to deal with modern technology.
well most MTB shifters have a gear indicator that you can see on your bars. You don't have to look at cassettes to know what gear you are in. In roadshifters though, there's the flightdeck and the ergobrain.
Modern tech? check out the tech the new XTRs and DAs are using.. and what about campy's carbon components.. You'll be amazed how complex the designs are..

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I'm thinking about getting an electric motor assist for my Landrider. Any of the other Landriders out there install one? It sure would be nice to be able to ride all the way around the block by myself!
I'm sorry, but I think that would take away the fun in biking...

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Comes with a fender too! Woo hoo!
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28-speed? Would that be a double crankset with a 14-speed cassette?
No, silly, there aren't any 14-speed cassettes yet. It's a 7-speed cassette with a quadruple crank!
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Hmm maybe a double crankset, double sprockets on the cassette and a 7-speed hub?

Yeah, I'm reachin!
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