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Old 04-16-06, 08:43 PM   #1
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Brand "signatures"

I've started noticing that bike companies often have "signatures" of various sorts. Bianchi Celeste may be the most famous of these -- not every Bianchi is Celeste, but if it's Celeste, it's a Bianchi. There are threads on the Classic and Vintage forum about the patterns different old-school framebuilders worked into lugs. Specialized likes to put a little arch into top tubes, Marin uses angled tubing.

What are some other brands' signatures?
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I've noticed that some of the clothing companies use astrological symbols. I guess this is a bit different but it's kind of interesting. I wonder why. Giordana- the archer (Sagittarius), Castelli- the scorpion (scorpio).
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Hey, you're right. I've had two GTs but I didn't notice until you posted that. It made me want to check the site, and sure enough, the seat tubes go through the top tube. Shnazzy.
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The GT thing is their trade marked "triple triangle".
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Trek is the poser riding it.
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The club (suit of cards) for Colnago. By the way, am I the only person who just HATES that Celeste Green?

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What's Celeste Green? Pic?
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The story I got was back in the day when Italy still had a monarchy(Like GB, no power, just to look good), Bianchi came up with a bike and painted it a god awful green. Like they had a bunch of leftover batches, threw em in a bucket and what came out look like technicolor yawn. They named it "Celeste" in honor of the Queen and presented it to her with great flair, pomp, and ceremony. Those Italians really know how to put on a show. You can guess what her name was. I used to sell Bianchi's and at first I absolutely hated it, but I finally came around to liking it. Now that my sales floor is not full of that color, I remember it fondly.
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So how many years did they use it?
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They still use it....I love that color.
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I read an article somewhere commenting about how Americans simply couldn't appreciate the Celeste color.. personally I love it. It's bicycle passion.
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Whaaaaaaat.............. Doooooes.................it..................... Looooooook.... Like????????
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Not going to upload a pic, but click here for a sample:

Bianchi Veloce Celeste

It is sort of a mint green with a little blue pearl in the clear coat.

Most excellent, but I will acknowledge it is an acquired taste.

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Here is an example of Bianchi's celeste.
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The story I got was back in the day when Italy still had a monarchy(Like GB, no power, just to look good), Bianchi came up with a bike and painted it a god awful green. Like they had a bunch of leftover batches, threw em in a bucket and what came out look like technicolor yawn. They named it "Celeste" in honor of the Queen and presented it to her with great flair, pomp, and ceremony. Those Italians really know how to put on a show. You can guess what her name was. I used to sell Bianchi's and at first I absolutely hated it, but I finally came around to liking it. Now that my sales floor is not full of that color, I remember it fondly.
From what I heard, a buncha left over paint from the war.
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Here is the Bianchi Celeste colour like God and Fausto intended.

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/ima...i/BianCo1L.jpg
http://bikecanal.cosmo.com.br/especi...nchi_coppi.jpg
http://www.vintagevelos.com/Coppibike.html
http://www.pbase.com/kayakbiker/image/27856656 (check the integrated headset - nothing is new!)
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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bianchi..._manufacturers)

Bianchi cycles are traditionally painted in the highly recognizable "celeste", a turquoise colour also known as "Bianchi blue" although it tends more towards green. There are two opposing legends concerning the origin of this colour - some say it is the colour of the Milan sky, others say it was the colour of the eyes of the former Queen of Italy, for whom Edoardo Bianchi once made a bicycle.
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Gios is blue.
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Gios is blue.
Interesting anecdote (if true) over at CyclArt about Gios Blue. In short:

"For years, we did not have a toner for Gios Team Blue. ... Finally, a customer turns out to be a pigment chemist. He analyzes the sample and identifies it. Yes, its a cobalt base all right, so toxic it's illegal damn near everywhere. ... But a Gios looks awful navy blue! " --Jim Cunningham, CyclArtist

No, CyclArt is not using cobalt. Read the story. The point is people go to great lengths to get the right color.

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The GT thing is their trade marked "triple triangle".
Copied from or inspired by the Thanet Silverlight

One of the most distintive frame brand signatures is the curly seat stays of the Hetchins. Back when time trialling was a covert activity similar to alleycat racing, no brand stickers were permitted hence the distinctive frame.
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I guess Colagno's is the old guy riding it,
You got it wrong, that's Rivendell (I jest only because I cannot afford to be "old" yet)
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I have a GT and yep... there it is, written on the frame... Triple triangle. And Belgian colors...

as for Celeste I love that color. I call it 'fender color' because it reminds me of the color of some vintage Fender guitars.
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