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    Onguard Brute Lock?

    I need another lock for my bike.

    I have a 6ft specialsed wrapper which will continue to use round wheels/shocks/frame and back to the post.
    - But ive just brought my bike to uni, so i need a D-lock or heavy chain to secure the frame, otherwise amongst otherthings, my unsurence wont cover me!

    I thought id get the ongard brute LS from wiggle (linky) and (linky2)
    - Even the LS (longshaft) seam to be fairly small, and the bike hoops are 2" tube, so it should be fairly un-jackable. And it seams to look fairly secure.
    - Only its the sub 30 lock my insurence company has listed as approved for 1000+ And i only need a 250-1000 approved lock. (which all seam to be 30+ anyway, bar one for 20)

    Has anyone got one of these locks?


    Daniel

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    I have one and for the price it can't be beat. The only weakness with these locks is the mounting bracket, which are prone to breaking. Onguard has excellent customer service and will send you a new bracket if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I have one and for the price it can't be beat.
    Great, glad you like it.
    - Also, could you tell me the dimentions of it, even if only roughy?
    - Varous sites have varous dims on them, but which ones are right lord knows, and non of the say if thats internal(lockable) or external(overall) size!

    I wish i could just to a shop and pickone up, but even with my bike i cant convently get to decent shop, so onlines jus the easyest way.


    Thanks a lot, Daniel

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    I have the standard version. The ID is 107mm x 178mm. The overall length is about 250mm, and the overall width is about 205mm, mesured from farthest point to farthest point.

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    I have both the full size Brute and the "mini" version with a shorter shackle. They are as strong as any lock made against attacks with manual tools. But, at a weight of almost five pounds, you need a rear rack to carry one. The "mini" will fit around both a road bike rear wheel and a beefy steel pole.


    The Kryptonite New York u-locks and the most expensive u-locks from Abus are provide first rate protection. But, no lock is a replacement for common sense. If you lock a $2,000 bike outside at night in a bad area, there may be no lock strong enough to guarantee its safety.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
    The Kryptonite New York u-locks and the most expensive u-locks from Abus are provide first rate protection. But, no lock is a replacement for common sense. If you lock a $2,000 bike outside at night in a bad area, there may be no lock strong enough to guarantee its safety.
    Surprisingly the Onguard Brute is rated as being more secure than the Abus by the ART foundation. The OnGuard Brute is rated four stars while the Abus 54/160 HB300 (The highest rated bicycle U-lock from Abus) is rated only three stars. I found this to be quite surprising.

    The Highest rated motorcycle U-locks from Abus are rated four stars, but they are massive and very heavy with no brackets available to mount them on a bicycle frame.

    http://www.stichtingart.nl/sloten_resultaat.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    I have the standard version. The ID is 107mm x 178mm. The overall length is about 250mm, and the overall width is about 205mm, mesured from farthest point to farthest point.
    Excelent, your a star!
    - So i guess the 107*260mm of the LS is also internal, ie, its the same width, just 82mm longer. That fairly long, think ill get the STD!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas
    Surprisingly the Onguard Brute is rated as being more secure than...
    Yeah, its got great rateing, thats why im think of geting it!


    Daniel

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    ok, im going to order one of these, i would prefer the STD, but i thinkim going to get the LS as thats what widgle stock.


    Daniel

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    Check out this place for excellent mail order prices in Europe and the UK. If you order a few items the savings far outweigh the shipping costs. I've ordered from them several times and am very happy.

    http://www.bike-components.de/catalo...da481ee0948c8e

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhutch
    ok, im going to order one of these, i would prefer the STD, but i thinkim going to get the LS as thats what widgle stock.


    Daniel
    Get the smallest version that will fit around your rear wheel and the "typical" locking post in your area. An "extra large" U-lock leaves empty space that enables a crook to insert a cheap, and rather effective leverage tool.

    The OnGuard website does not always show the same models that are actually stocked in shops. A shop in my area stocks a "mini" version of the Brute that has the same thick shackle, but is more compact.

    In the UK, some OnGuard models are sold under the "Magnum" brand at a cheaper price. If you look at the ratings at Soldsecure.com (sponsored by UK insurance companies) the ratings will help you figure out which Magnum models equal a given OnGuard model. A "Magnum" with a Soldsecure.com "gold" rating gives you the same level of security as a top model from Kryptonite or OnGuard for a lower price.

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    I got a Nashbar catalog today that had a "sale" on the OnGuard Brute for $50...a very good price on a lock that is one of the very best available. Of course, not everyone wants to lug around a lock that weighs about five pounds...but folks who leave their bike alone for hours in a big city or on a urban college campus need a serious lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alanbikehouston
    I got a Nashbar catalog today that had a "sale" on the OnGuard Brute for $50...a very good price on a lock that is one of the very best available. Of course, not everyone wants to lug around a lock that weighs about five pounds...but folks who leave their bike alone for hours in a big city or on a urban college campus need a serious lock.
    And for those of us in Europe it can be had for 23.50 euro here: http://www.bike-components.de/catalo...da481ee0948c8e

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    Well, it arrived yesterday. And what a beast it is!
    - Talk about the weight, my god, i knew it was heavy, but its more than that!!
    - The light keys crasy too, its more fancy that my carkey! Even if i did have to open it up, clean the parts up but some contact grease on them, and reasseable in order to get it working well!

    Well happy with it.


    Daniel

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