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LittleBigMan 05-30-01 11:13 AM

Envy
 
Is is possible the negativity we cyclists get once in a while is due to envy? Who wouldn't envy a cyclist:

Faster than a speeding pedestrian.

More powerful than the local transit system.

Passes long lines of congested automobile traffic in a single block.

Look! Up on the hill! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's...it's... It's me!

I am in better shape in my fourties than I was at 10, 15, 18, 25 or 30, or any other time in my life. "Gimme five, Petey! <slaps self>"

:D

ridealot 05-30-01 11:35 AM

I whenever I go on a short ride and stop at a convience store I always get the "how far did you go" or "how far are you going when I say only ten miles or so they get real dissapointed and upset like I am not a true rider or that I am a wimp. Heck all I did was go out for a quickie.

LightBoy 05-30-01 12:18 PM

Who wouldn't envy us? We get to wear lycra!

LittleBigMan 05-30-01 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by ridealot
I whenever I go on a short ride and stop at a convience store I always get the "how far did you go" or "how far are you going when I say only ten miles or so they get real dissapointed...
Just tell them the honest truth: say you went 2,000 miles. When they look sideways at you, correct yourself and say, "Oh, I thought you meant this year.

Joe Pozer 05-30-01 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by ridealot
I whenever I go on a short ride and stop at a convience store I always get the "how far did you go" or "how far are you going when I say only ten miles or so they get real dissapointed and upset like I am not a true rider or that I am a wimp. Heck all I did was go out for a quickie.
I get the opposite. If I go on a quick 10 mile ride and tell someone they look at me as if I rode all they way across the country.

Joe Pozer 05-30-01 12:45 PM

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Originally posted by LightBoy
Who wouldn't envy us? We get to wear lycra!
I don't think that's envy, it's laughter...

JonR 05-30-01 02:13 PM

I went on a group ride with the bike club once and rode alongside a woman that turned out to be a psychologist. We discussed negative motorist reactions to cyclists (including rage) and her opinion was that a lot was due to envy. Not just of the fun, but of the health benefit.

As for "How far did you go?" I usually get the dropped-jaw reaction when I say ten or twelve miles. I don't think anybody yet has expected me to go more than a mile.

RonH 05-30-01 04:21 PM

I too get the occasional negative comment, and sometimes the "idiot" comment.

Once I was stopped while riding by a man who appeared to be about the same age as I (55), and unlike me, appeared to be about 7 months pregnant. He told me I had no business riding a bicycle at my age. I told him he had no business being pregnant at his age. He didn't have a response.
Was he envious of me being more active or physically fit?

This morning at work a salesman who works for my company commented about a "Share the Road" bumper sticker on my car. He said he was strongly opposed to the message I was displaying. He said I don't pay taxes so I have no right to be on the road with my bicycle.
I told him I pay taxes to the county for my house, sales taxes, taxes to register my car, etc. I asked what he meant but he couldn't explain himself.
Like the man in the first incident, he is about the same age as I, but 40+ pounds overweight.

Is it primarily men who are overweight or inactive who are envious? Why else would they make such ridiculous comments?

Maybe cyclists (or any active, healthy person) are a threat to their "male superiority".
Generally women are at awe and impressed when they learn how far I ride.

What do you think?

Ron

aerobat 05-30-01 04:41 PM

I would say I get more comments on the positive side when I mention my riding, where, how far etc.

As far as motorist attitudes, I think they are envious when the see that a bike can get ahead of them in heavy traffic, but when they are slightly delayed because of a bike riding in the lane ahead of them, that envy translates into anger, and we get the result of that.

JonR 05-30-01 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by rhorne
Is it primarily men who are overweight or inactive who are envious? Why else would they make such ridiculous comments?

Maybe cyclists (or any active, healthy person) are a threat to their "male superiority".
Generally women are at awe and impressed when they learn how far I ride.

What do you think?

Ron

I think it shows once again that women are more sensible than men.

orguasch 05-30-01 06:28 PM

One time I pass by in my restaurant with my cycling attire, and one lady server saw me, she shouted, "Spandex man", I got really embarass, But then I was thinking Why will I be embarass, she was the one who look silly shouting "spandex Man"...

Chris L 05-30-01 07:25 PM

It's envy because most of them are so fat they could probably roll everywhere they had to go if there were no hills! Heck, when I get negative comments (and I often do around here), I just console myself with the fact that I am absolutely certain to outlive most of them anyway, and I'll be able to do a lot more things than them during that time.

Chris

fubar5 05-30-01 08:20 PM

It's gotta be something. And I would like to think its envy. I wouldn't want it to be ....disgust. But it may be that, I sure hope not...:p
I went to the library to study for the ACT tonight and the librarian was REAL nice, she let me bring my bike inside. I was soooo happy.:D

orguasch 05-30-01 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by fubar5
It's gotta be something. And I would like to think its envy. I wouldn't want it to be ....disgust. But it may be that, I sure hope not...:p
I went to the library to study for the ACT tonight and the librarian was REAL nice, she let me bring my bike inside. I was soooo happy.:D

You are very lucky indeed.....

JonR 05-30-01 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by fubar5
I went to the library to study for the ACT tonight and the librarian was REAL nice, she let me bring my bike inside. I was soooo happy.:D
Librarians are more apt than a lot of folks to be a little out of the mainstream, a little more introspective and thoughtful (in both senses of the word). They're not in it for the money! Good for her.
:)

LightBoy 05-30-01 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by fubar5
I went to the library to study for the ACT tonight...
That's an endeavor I remember all too well. Good luck on the test!

Nitter 05-31-01 12:29 PM

As a librarian, I really don't make that much, especially after paying the butler, chaffeur, gardener, and the rest of my staff. Besides, after taxes, I still don't make enough to hire Lance as my personal trainer. Anyway, if it's a secret, how come you know about it?

fubar5 05-31-01 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Ba-Dg-Er
It was one of those things where they told me and meant to kill me but screwed up the second part... afterall librarians just don't make very good murderers.
I dunno, they may just be the best ones, seeing as how most people wouldn't guess that they were.

ridealot 05-31-01 01:18 PM

Now I envy librarians they can get away with anything! Damn that dewy decimal system!

Nitter 05-31-01 01:38 PM

The librarian, rich, but deceptively deadly. Like .007. "Hi, my name is Decimal, Dewey Decimal." When do I get a Bond girl?

fubar5 05-31-01 01:51 PM

Uh oh.... I think another thread is going arwy!!!!

Nitter 05-31-01 02:22 PM

So much for the fantasy. I need more time on the bike to look good in spandex. I have to earn my envy.

Chris L 05-31-01 04:35 PM

The library is like that really unpopular kid at school. You just go up and ask for books and they give them to you and hope that you will bring them back.

Chris


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