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Old 05-29-06, 01:03 AM   #1
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bike skills: platform vs clipless

I have pretty much decided that I want the Mallet C's for my bike when time comes to upgrade my stock pedals. I could go ahead and get them and go clipless right away I have no fear of falling but I have one major concern.

Bike skills and techniques: I think alot of people "cheat" on clipless systems

Say getting the rear wheel up, for me on a platform I have to shift all my weight forward and lift up my feet so that the bike is allowed to move up like my weight shift is trying to do. While sombody on clipless has nothing more to do than "jump" or lift there feet up and the bike comes with them.

same for a bunny hop, to get the rear wheel in the air it requires a nice shift of bike position and weight while a clipless rider just has to lift there feet up.

So whats the right way do to things? Should a clipless rider learn how to do things the "hard" way first on platforms for best teqnique or should they just learn a total diffrent set of skills.

I think alot of clipless riders are very handicaped if they were forced to ride a friends platform bike for a day.

So what do you think on the subject?

I have mixed feelings so I am not sure where I stand. My biggest fear is trying to do things the "easy" way and have the shoe come off the pedal one day resulting in a very painfull injury, while platform users have to learn to move the bike with them and never apply force to the pedal.

But its tempting when I can do a 2 foot bunny hop clipless and only a 6" one on platforms ^^
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Uh, I dunno, have you actually tried doing all that stuff on clipless? I've never heard or felt that you could just 'lift your feet up' and pull an amazing bunny hop. Not that I've really tried, honestly. But you'd be a lot better off learning on platforms. It'll teach you more, and hurt a lot less.
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I have done it all on platform but not clipless I am going off the comments of others, many of the tutorials I have read have people complaining about how they cant keep there feet on platforms because they are used to cliples,

had sombody say that now they are used to bunny hops where they can just lift there feet up and its so much easier than when on platforms.

Seen people say that they can just "bounce there bike inplace" by jumping with the bike on clipless as a way to turn around or an alternative to a track stand, that they could not do on platforms.

Its almost like a diffrent set of skills, alot of things you can "do" on clipless you cant do on platforms, I just wanted to know how many take advantage of this, and how many still stick to there roots and do things as if they were on platforms, and as far as a new rider is concerned should I get clipless right away to get used to it and reap its benifits, or stay on cheapo platforms while i develop my technique.
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To bunny hop clipless, I unload myself from the saddle, pull up on the handlbars as I grip the handlbars and roll my hands forward.

Rolling the handlbars forward picks up the back tire, so the whole effect is that the bike comes straight up without rotating.

When riding with clips, I do the same thing, just in case I come unclipped. I'm usually riding with loaded panniers, so I don't get very high, but it's enough to get over the railroad tracks, pothole or speed bump.

Does this answer the question?
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Need more feedback !! surly more people have gone from platform to clipless and have somthing to say.
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When I rode platform I didn't do all those crazy things (at least I think I didn't). Personally I don't think the issue is all that important with road bikes.
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First of all, it actually is very easy to bunny hop when clipped in. I've been riding clipless for about 3 months and yesterday was the first time I even thought about bunny hopping & the bike just picked right up off the street with very little effort.

Second of all, I have the Mallet Cs and don't really like em. If you're already decided, then fine. If not, consider this...

The egg beater portion of the pedals seem to be fine. However, those giant platforms have proven to be worse than useless. First of all, you'll never use them with city shoes. It's not really even possible because of how far the clips stick up. Second of all, the platforms actually make it much harder to clip in if you have any tread on your shoes, because it forces you to be much more accurate in order to actually find the clips.

I just found a set of plain ole egg beaters (the barebones ones) two days ago for half price & they're a world easier to use than the mallets.
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I got the mallets already on sale for 50$ I know I can use them with regular shoes if need be for casual stuff, I have some old shoes I might "mod" so that the eggbeater part of the pedal goes up into the shoe some. I might change to full on eggbeaters down the road but I think the mallets will give me a better starting point and I got them I think pretty cheap.
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