Search
Notices
General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

Salt And Cycling

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-13-06, 11:17 AM
  #1  
Arschgaudi
Thread Starter
 
Mayonnaise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chicago (Beverly)
Posts: 853

Bikes: Merckx Team SC, Masi (fixed), Merckx Cyclo-Cross

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Salt And Cycling

According to an article in today’s Chicago Tribune, the American Medical Association this week is calling for a 50% reduction of salt in processed and restaurant foods. The idea is to raise awareness of the harmful effects of salt.

Which brings to mind a question I’ve long thought about.

I don’t have high blood pressure or a history of hypertension and am an avid cyclist.

At best I ignore thinking about salt altogether and at worst I over salt foods, thinking my body probably needs it, particularly after a long ride or after a race.

I drink lots of water.

So the discussion point is, for active people, how much do we have to worry about salt? I know we must replenish what we use while riding on a hot day, but certainly this doesn’t give us the liberty to consume as much salt as we want. Or does it?
Mayonnaise is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 11:31 AM
  #2  
contrarian
 
lala's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: CO Springs
Posts: 2,848

Bikes: 80's ross road bike/commuter, 80's team miyata, 90's haro mtb xtracycle conversion, koga mitaya world traveler

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I guess it depends on the amount of processed and restaurant foods one consumes. Personally, while I love me some salt, I eat little processed foods and only high quality restaurant foods, drink water, exercise, etc, etc. I have no worries. If one eats decently and moves around a bunch, I doubt one needs to even think about this!
__________________
Higher ground for the apocalypse!
lala is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 11:38 AM
  #3  
You know you want to.
 
Eatadonut's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Norman, Oklahoma
Posts: 1,894

Bikes: Pinarello Prince, 1980's 531 steel fixie commuter, FrankenMTB

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My completely uneducated guess is that this is another thing that sedentary people need to worry about.
__________________
Weather today: Hot. Humid. Potholes.
Eatadonut is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 11:41 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts
like donuts?
Crud.... I just finished an old cycling book by greg lemond. He mentioned something about avoiding sodium. If I could just remember why......
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 01:36 PM
  #5  
Time for a change.
 
stapfam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: 6 miles inland from the coast of Sussex, in the South East of England
Posts: 19,913

Bikes: Dale MT2000. Bianchi FS920 Kona Explosif. Giant TCR C. Boreas Ignis. Pinarello Fp Uno.

Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by Mayonnaise
So the discussion point is, for active people, how much do we have to worry about salt? I know we must replenish what we use while riding on a hot day, but certainly this doesn’t give us the liberty to consume as much salt as we want. Or does it?

High salt intake is one of those things you pay for as you get older- but to a degree, the body needs salt. (So do my taste buds but that is too many years of over indulgence)

In my youth I used to do a lot of physical activity and I noticed once that one of the better athletes, after a 2 hour work out, was white. It was literraly salt he had sweated out- but it had dried on his skin and made him look as though he had covered himself in talc. He admitted his secret and it was high salt intake. I started to take salt the day before an event from then on and it did improve me no end .

Quite a few years later and I used to race in Karting Endurance events. Saturday was practice day and we were at Le Mans and it was hot and Humid. I had remembered the salt intake and aquired some salt tablets. At 2pm I took one and started unloading the van. By 3 pm I was on the track- run in the engines- sorted the chassis and by 5 pm I was back in the hotel. No other driver practiced that day till 8pm and they were still shattered. Next day- still hot and Humid so took a salt tablet every hour along with copious amounts of coffee and Glucose and not to brag- I slaughtered all the other drivers.

In the hot and Humid conditions- the body needs salt and not enough and you will pay for it. Problem is that other side of the line and heart problems will hit you at a later stage in life.

Luckily today- there alternatives to salt and one is the Isotonic drinks that are available. They definitely do work and providing you can find one you like the tase of- can be taken as often and in the quantities you want without causing medical problems.
__________________
How long was I in the army? Five foot seven.


Spike Milligan
stapfam is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 03:09 PM
  #6  
Humvee of bikes =Worksman
 
Nightshade's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
A good discussion about this here..........

https://www.bikeforums.net/fifty-plus-50/202624-leg-cramps.html
Nightshade is offline  
Old 06-13-06, 03:57 PM
  #7  
semifreddo amartuerer
 
'nother's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 4,599

Bikes: several

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
I think it's kind of an individual thing. The general recommendation is to decrease salt intake because of the association with hypertension. But the thing is, not everyone with hypertension is salt-sensitive, e.g. decreasing sodium intake does not always lower BP, and increased sodium intake does not necessarily raise BP. Anyone with hypertension should probably discuss their own situation with their doctor.

But if you do not have hypertension, the advice from Mothra seems reasonable. You need to know what you're taking in versus what you're losing, and replenish appropriately. I would not "worry" about it, but I would make at least some rough guesses. E.g. if you just had 4 cans of tomato juice (~8000 mg sodium) you probably don't need to add any more sodium to your diet But if you're sucking down only water or low-sodium drinks, and you're sweating like crazy, you could be in trouble.
'nother is offline  
Old 06-14-06, 10:40 PM
  #8  
Its Freakin HammerTime!!!
 
C_Heath's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Off the back lol
Posts: 2,375

Bikes: Specialized Roubaix and Giant AnthemX

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 42 Post(s)
Liked 6 Times in 6 Posts
<<<<< eats lots of processed crap
__________________
Originally Posted by rousseau
I don't like any other exercise or sports, really.
....

https://www.xxcycle.com/logo_w150h100/bmc.jpg
C_Heath is offline  
Old 06-15-06, 06:02 AM
  #9  
Know Your Onion!
 
badkarma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 2,011

Bikes: Kestrel Talon, Motobecane Le Champion SL

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Mothra
Then... being a fit cyclist who exercises regularly, you can ignore a lot of the blanket statements on nutrition out there that's targeted at couch-potatoes. Cyclists will generally sweat away 600-1000mg of sodium per hour. If you do a lot of riding, your sodium-intake requirements will be the OPPOSITE of the AMA's recommendation, you'll need to DOUBLE your salt-intake (compared to couch-potatoe) to maintain equilibrium. Not many spuds have died from hyponatremia, but quite a few runners and cyclists have.
+1 - Spot on.
badkarma is offline  
Old 06-15-06, 06:20 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
 
joeprim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern Neck Tidewater Va.
Posts: 1,688
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I sweated it all out about a mile from the top of the Grand Canyon. I didn't know why I was so tired. Some one (cute lady) offered me a couple of saltine crackers. In a couple of min. I felt fine and went on up to the top. Sat down to wait for my buddy that went to get my car. I looked doen at myself and was white with salt. That's when Irealized what had happened.

Years ago they reccomended taking salt tablets. Those medical guys can't make up their minds -

Joe
joeprim is offline  
Old 06-15-06, 09:09 AM
  #11  
Arschgaudi
Thread Starter
 
Mayonnaise's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Chicago (Beverly)
Posts: 853

Bikes: Merckx Team SC, Masi (fixed), Merckx Cyclo-Cross

Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 15 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 2 Posts
Remember that old Star Trek episode with the monster that sucked all the salt out of your body and left you to die?

Didn't Bones nearly get killed by him?
Mayonnaise is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.