Cycling and bicycle discussion forums. 
   Click here to join our community Log in to access your Control Panel  


Go Back   > >

General Cycling Discussion Have a cycling related question or comment that doesn't fit in one of the other specialty forums? Drop on in and post in here! When possible, please select the forum above that most fits your post!

User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 06-16-06, 03:04 PM   #1
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Getting tired of the greased piggy feel, and skin damage is getting more priority again.
I hate that diagnosis: "basal cell carcinoma"

so, this is getting more important.

Interesting sites:

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology...1/vculler.html
- UV protection chart of chemical and physical sunscreens

http://www.answers.com/topic/sunburn
- what is light, sunburn, etc

http://www.mercola.com/2000/oct/15/sunscreen.htm
- chemical sunscreens increase instead of decrease cancer risks

http://www.skinbiology.com/toxicsunscreens.html
- why and how chemical sunscreens effect humans

http://vvv.com/healthnews/dsunscre.html
--Sunscreens increase cancer




Notes_summary

-- in sunlight, avobenzone degrades and becomes ineffective within about 1 hour

-- In 2001, the National Academy of Sciences published a comprehensive review showing that the omega 6:3 ratio was the key to preventing skin cancer development.

-- safest screens are those with Titanium dioxide or zinc oxide

-- supplement diet with 800 IU of vit E

-- limit sun exposure between 9am and 3pm

-- ozone thinning does not account for increase in skin cancer rates

-- UVB causes DNA and cell damage

-- UVA is both good and bad. It generates Vit D and also increases sagging, wrinkling, leathery texture, and blotchy discoloration of skin

-- SPF only measures UVA and not UVB.

-- SPF is a guessimate and not accurate. Should be renamed sunburn factor for better understanding.

-- revision of SPF standands is supposed to be completed within next 12 months, but some expect this process to continue for years.



So back to my original question, any experience with an excellent SPF shirt for cycyling?

Last edited by HiYoSilver; 06-16-06 at 07:37 PM.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-06, 03:52 PM   #2
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Anyone tried this? It looks fantastic and it's a jersey with SPF 50


http://www.boure.com/8626L.html
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-06, 07:35 PM   #3
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Found another, not SPF 50, but is SPF 40, close enough.

http://www.bikemania.biz/Jaggad_Solr...eysolracem.htm

Besides the boure goat jersey, they also have a team jersey.

So for SPF, there are 4 I now know of:
1. solumbra cycle shirt
2. boure goat jersey
3. boure team jersey
4. jaggad solrace

Anyone else find any?????
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-16-06, 11:50 PM   #4
Nermal
Senior Member
 
Nermal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Farmington, NM
Bikes: Giant Cypress SX
Posts: 2,066
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
http://royalrobbins.com/product_deta..._Cat_ID=9&sp=N Not a designated cycling shirt, but it works. Coolmax, and they claim UPF 30, whatever that equates to.
__________________
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Nermal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-06, 05:55 AM   #5
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I think SPF 30 is about 93% protection from UVA. SPF50 is about 97% protection.

Thank you for the find. There are so few cycling shirts I'm just looking at alternatives. Underbody armor has a shirt but I thought it would be too warm. There also are some surfing and boating shirts, but they don't look like they have adequate ventilation. The surfing shirts are dark colors.

Again, thanks.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-06, 12:24 AM   #6
DaveSANYYZ
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: San Diego, CA
Bikes: 1999 Norco ht mtb/2006 C'dale road bike/2007 Colnago CLX
Posts: 2,698
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I've used this swimming/surfing shirt twice in the heat:
http://www.rei.com/online/store/Prod...cat=REI_SEARCH
Seems to be ok temperature-wise; I always carry a camelback, so dark body color is ok for me as long as the sleeves are bright colors. There are bright colored ones on Amazon (search term "rashguard").

Don't know if I'll look weird wearing these while cycling. When I initially purchased it, I didn't know it's meant for water sports (I don't swim, so "quiksilver", "body glove" brands didn't ring a bell to me); they are the only "for sports" looking UVP50 shirts I can find easily in sports stores in my area.
DaveSANYYZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-06, 08:32 AM   #7
Dahon.Steve
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Jersey
Bikes:
Posts: 6,837
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 35 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
I think SPF 30 is about 93% protection from UVA. SPF50 is about 97% protection.

Thank you for the find. There are so few cycling shirts I'm just looking at alternatives. Underbody armor has a shirt but I thought it would be too warm. There also are some surfing and boating shirts, but they don't look like they have adequate ventilation. The surfing shirts are dark colors.

Again, thanks.
If I'm going to wear a long sleave shirt during the summer, it MUST be white or nothing else. Thanks for those articles.

I was wearing the long sleave white Performance jersey not too long ago with very good results. The past two weeks since I haven't used them, my arms turned very tan. I guess I'll have to go back to using them again after reading your articles. I still use full hand gloves because I hate that mid finger tan line.
Dahon.Steve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-06, 08:47 AM   #8
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Agreed on full hand gloves. I still have a couple pair of fingerless, but don't use them. I also have gotten in the habit of putting on sunscreen before putting on the gloves, as the gloves probably have a SPF of 6 to 8. I could treat them with some SPF solution I guess. I'll have to look into this. Thanks for making me think again.

I agree with light colors, I'm going to try the boure goat jersey and see how it works. If it's close, I'll bet they would be open to creating a custom jersey.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-06, 09:15 AM   #9
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Found another source. Very reasonable pricing and with many color choices. Long sleeve jersey $60 and short sleeve $35.

http://skin-savers.com/Action_Wear/index.html

Yet another option is to get Rit Sun Guard Laundry Treatment UV Protectant, $20 at dermadoctor.com and treat your clothes in the wash. Raises a standard SPF 5 shirt to SPF 30.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-06, 11:01 AM   #10
LilSprocket
Wheee
 
LilSprocket's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: S. FL
Bikes: Schwinn Rocket 88 phase 1/ Surly 1x1/Cannondale R700 WSD 650c
Posts: 378
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
This FLA cyclist thanks you for this post
__________________
If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.
http://www.myspace.com/qwtrailbuilders
rip sydney
LilSprocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-06, 11:14 AM   #11
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by LilSprocket
This FLA cyclist thanks you for this post
You're welcome. If you find an especially comfortable shirt, let us know.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-06, 12:32 PM   #12
kemmer
*****es love tarck
 
kemmer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sandy, UT
Bikes: so many
Posts: 3,302
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by HiYoSilver
Found another source. Very reasonable pricing and with many color choices. Long sleeve jersey $60 and short sleeve $35.

http://skin-savers.com/Action_Wear/index.html

Yet another option is to get Rit Sun Guard Laundry Treatment UV Protectant, $20 at dermadoctor.com and treat your clothes in the wash. Raises a standard SPF 5 shirt to SPF 30.

That detergent probably has the same chemicals found in sunscreen...

I have a white rashguard, "ripcurl" I believe is the brand. It's pretty lightweight and comfortable.
kemmer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-21-06, 12:56 PM   #13
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Excellent point, if it's just chemical it would be very suspect. Thanks for asking that question.

I saw the rashguard link, kind of a bland shirt, but hey if it works, that's great.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-06, 05:59 PM   #14
crystalspin
Member
 
crystalspin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orange County S.California
Bikes: 2006 Downtube VIIIFS, 1980's Dahon 3-sp
Posts: 28
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
HiYo:
My thanks too for the skin-savers link. The first (boure) jerseys are jazzier, but love the SS prices more... as soon as they get back from vacation, I'll be ordering! I was already planning to use the Rit product but having some difficulty finding long-sleeved jerseys that aren't designed for COOL/COLD weather.

This thread saved me starting one of my own! Thanks to OP and all contributors!

Re: SunGuard:
"SunGuard works by washing an invisible shield into clothing that helps block more than 96% of the sun's harmful rays from reaching your skin. With the active ingredient TINOSORB® FD, a UV protectant from Ciba Specialty Chemicals, SunGuard can boost the UPF protection of a white cotton T-shirt from UPF 5 to UPF 30....wash in skin protection for up to 20 washings. SunGuard won't change the color or comfort of clothing and is safe for even the most sensitive skin."

So while TinosorbFD is a "chemical" (as are TiO2 and ZnO) from a chemical company, the protection it offers is quite apparently physical -- based on that it lasts through washings rather than degrading in 60-90 minutes. More details here:
http://www.sunguardsunprotection.com/faq.asp

~'spin!~
PS also see the skinsavers page on sunscreen for a discussion (well, a bar-chart) of properties of sunblocks. They sell both "types" so I'm more apt to trust the data...
crystalspin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-06, 06:03 PM   #15
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
You're welcome. I'm going to also try treating a couple of jerseys and see how it goes.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-29-06, 07:03 PM   #16
shoerhino
Senior Member
 
shoerhino's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 549
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Some of the Cervelo jerseys have a high SPF rating.. Click the link and read the fabric technology section.

http://www.cervelo.com/apparel.aspx?m=Apparel&i=Jerseys
shoerhino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-06, 05:25 AM   #17
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
I must have missed it, I didn't see any sunblock. great looking jerseys. though
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-06, 05:31 AM   #18
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Nevermind, found it. They call it E-flow. SPF 40. Nice, except they are all short sleeve. the long sleeve is not SPF and heavier for cooler temps.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-06, 07:57 PM   #19
carlton
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: corpus christi,texas
Bikes: canondale silk trail
Posts: 347
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
LLBEAN tropical wear shirts= great.
carlton is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-06, 10:43 PM   #20
slowandsteady
Faster but still slow
 
slowandsteady's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Jersey
Bikes: Trek 830 circa 1993 and a Fuji WSD Finest 1.0 2006
Posts: 5,979
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Okay, so this whole 50 spf shirt thing seems like a scam. So I think I will start a poll. Just curious as to how many people actually got a sunburn with their clothes on.
slowandsteady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-06, 11:15 PM   #21
Nermal
Senior Member
 
Nermal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Farmington, NM
Bikes: Giant Cypress SX
Posts: 2,066
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2 Post(s)
Fair enough. I just voted in it. Make no mistake, almost any fabric is going to give more protection than bare skin.

I'm going to do a comparison here, though the jury's still out on the sun protection merits of either. I got the Royal Robbins Expedition (short sleeve), and an Ex-Officio long sleeve, both rated UPF 30. Robbins uses Coolmax as a cooling fabric, Ex-Officio uses a different brand of essentially the same. The Robbins feels cooler, though that is a personal observation. Both are better than cotton seersucker. Both use velcro for pocket closures (which I hate). The Ex-Officio has a three way collar, and uses velcro as part of the design. I have yet to find a good collar position. Ex-Officio also has a velcro (again) closure on the rear vent, which I regard as unnecessary. It also has a hook in the yoke, probably to hold up the rear vent with velcro. Both have two breast pockets (good), but both are a little droopy due to the large size and the nature of the respective fabrics. Pockets on both are too big, but Robbins is a little closer to being right. Neither is a cycling shirt, by the way.

In my personal opinion, the Robbins at $60.00 in long sleeve looks better, and the simpler design works better so far as actually wearing the shirt goes. The Ex-Officio at $74.00 is just way overdesigned. Perceptually, the Robbins is slightly cooler, though this is unscientific comparison. If you insist on the Ex-Officio, prices at REI were recently in the mid $50s.
__________________
Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.
Nermal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-04-06, 01:09 AM   #22
crystalspin
Member
 
crystalspin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Orange County S.California
Bikes: 2006 Downtube VIIIFS, 1980's Dahon 3-sp
Posts: 28
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Okay, so this whole 50 spf shirt thing seems like a scam.
Slowandsteady:
Your "Okay, so..." sounds like you are agreeing with someone else but I can't find anyone in this thread who has said or even implied anything of the kind.

I knew someone who sunburned through a cotton shirt and you could see the seams and pockets/yoke/placket in slightly less burned outlines.

My husband, who (thanks to Danish/English ethnicity) burns VERY easily, has never shown ANY evidence of sun exposure through SPF-rated nylon or poly shirts from LLBean, Travelsmith, or White Sierra (a brand carried by Sports Chalet). That's outdoorsy-button shirts, not jerserys, not that it matters to the discussion, but before anybody gets excited thinking that LLBean has SPF/UPF rated bike jerseys!

Anyway, no SCAMS or rumors of scams, in this household.

~'spin!~

PS: Anyone looking for Rit's Sunguard in single packets to try out: found it at Michael's, the Arts-n-Crafts store.
crystalspin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-06, 09:12 AM   #23
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by slowandsteady
Okay, so this whole 50 spf shirt thing seems like a scam. So I think I will start a poll. Just curious as to how many people actually got a sunburn with their clothes on.
You misunderstand. The issue is NOT sunburn, it's UV cell damage. I used to have a job where I had to drive most of the time. I didn't get sunburn thru clothes, but did get basal cell cancer thru the drivers side window and shirts. If it's caught early, basal cell cancer does not spread like other cancers. But then again, it's still cancer and cancer is not good.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-06, 09:38 AM   #24
Pedal Wench
Senior Member
 
Pedal Wench's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Bikes:
Posts: 2,046
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
My boyfriend swears by the Boure SPF 50 jersey (he lives/rides in Miami.) We both use the arm-coolers from desotosports.com - I've never gotten a burn through them.
Pedal Wench is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-06, 02:55 PM   #25
HiYoSilver
Rides again
Thread Starter
 
HiYoSilver's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: W. Sacramento Region, aka, Nut Tree
Bikes: Giant OCR T, Trek SC
Posts: 3,259
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
the boure SPF jersey is great. It's very cool. We haven't had above 95F here when I've been riding with it, but at 94F it feels like about 83F when riding.
HiYoSilver is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:56 PM.