Bike theft countermeasures
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Originally Posted by M3ta7h3ad
Ah that sucks a bit.
I use a Kryptolok U-Lock in combination with a 6ft Kryptocable (just a cable with two noose end things ).
Shove the U lock around a post/rack, through back wheel and chain (dont bother with frame) then use the kryptocable to loop through the front wheel, and strap it to the other side of the rack (keeping the bike tied firmly to the bike rack) or just loop it and through the frame.
Loop the free end of the cable (I use it like a noose) over the u-lock and thats it.
Granted if they chopped the cable, the bike wouldnt be free... it'd just wobble more but damn... nervous about leaving it out with the kryptolock ulock now too! its only a bronze sold secure thing.
I use a Kryptolok U-Lock in combination with a 6ft Kryptocable (just a cable with two noose end things ).
Shove the U lock around a post/rack, through back wheel and chain (dont bother with frame) then use the kryptocable to loop through the front wheel, and strap it to the other side of the rack (keeping the bike tied firmly to the bike rack) or just loop it and through the frame.
Loop the free end of the cable (I use it like a noose) over the u-lock and thats it.
Granted if they chopped the cable, the bike wouldnt be free... it'd just wobble more but damn... nervous about leaving it out with the kryptolock ulock now too! its only a bronze sold secure thing.
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Anyone use a laptop motion alarm. I saw them in a Staples for $20. Are they too sensitive to be practicle? Sort of takes away the thief's advantage of your being unaware so long as you're within earshot.
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I used to ride my main bike everywhere and locked it down with an old chain lock. After i got my Specialized, i still ride the old Schwinn everywhere, or another inexpensive bike when i commute.
Besides the chain lock, i park next to more expensive and often easier to steal mountain bikes. There aren't a lot of road bikes around here, and they generally aren't that popular. Having pretty basic/beat up/non-fancy bikes tells anyone around here that they won't be getting much for their efforts. I'm also rather tall, so all my bike frames are about as big as i can find, which is way too big for most people around here.
But, i figure, if someone wants to steal it anyway, they're going to steal it. I just hope it's one of my cheap/beater bikes than something i'd cry over.
Besides the chain lock, i park next to more expensive and often easier to steal mountain bikes. There aren't a lot of road bikes around here, and they generally aren't that popular. Having pretty basic/beat up/non-fancy bikes tells anyone around here that they won't be getting much for their efforts. I'm also rather tall, so all my bike frames are about as big as i can find, which is way too big for most people around here.
But, i figure, if someone wants to steal it anyway, they're going to steal it. I just hope it's one of my cheap/beater bikes than something i'd cry over.
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I don't really need to leave my bike alone for more than 15 minutes at a time, so I just run my krypto new york through my front wheel, frame, and the object I am locking to. If I must leave it for longer, I will use the ulock and a chain (a la home depot). I NEVER free lock. Way too risky considering I've seen bikes with tacoed wheels get stolen from librarys.
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I used to ride my main bike everywhere and locked it down with an old chain lock. After i got my Specialized, i still ride the old Schwinn everywhere, or another inexpensive bike when i commute.
Besides the chain lock, i park next to more expensive and often easier to steal mountain bikes. There aren't a lot of road bikes around here, and they generally aren't that popular. Having pretty basic/beat up/non-fancy bikes tells anyone around here that they won't be getting much for their efforts. I'm also rather tall, so all my bike frames are about as big as i can find, which is way too big for most people around here.
But, i figure, if someone wants to steal it anyway, they're going to steal it. I just hope it's one of my cheap/beater bikes than something i'd cry over.
Besides the chain lock, i park next to more expensive and often easier to steal mountain bikes. There aren't a lot of road bikes around here, and they generally aren't that popular. Having pretty basic/beat up/non-fancy bikes tells anyone around here that they won't be getting much for their efforts. I'm also rather tall, so all my bike frames are about as big as i can find, which is way too big for most people around here.
But, i figure, if someone wants to steal it anyway, they're going to steal it. I just hope it's one of my cheap/beater bikes than something i'd cry over.
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For your reference, there's a nice (and long) thread about this entitled "How not to get your bike stolen" in the SS/FG forum. Have a read through it, it's pretty helpful.
You can also search the commuting forum for a story about someone's nice bike being stolen by a thief using an angle grinder, complete with security camera footage. Scary! I think the consensus was that routinely locking in the same place every day lets evildoers figure out when they could work on your bike/lock.
As 'nother said -- this sounded really wise to me, actually -- there's a set of best practices to reduce risk, but no set of un-defeatable bike theft countermeasures.
You can also search the commuting forum for a story about someone's nice bike being stolen by a thief using an angle grinder, complete with security camera footage. Scary! I think the consensus was that routinely locking in the same place every day lets evildoers figure out when they could work on your bike/lock.
As 'nother said -- this sounded really wise to me, actually -- there's a set of best practices to reduce risk, but no set of un-defeatable bike theft countermeasures.
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There's so many threads about bicycle security! Losing track...
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Here's a much cheaper place to buy Pitlock.
https://www.urbanbiketech.com/secure_shop.html
https://www.urbanbiketech.com/secure_shop.html
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Even the cheesiest lock is about 90% effective because it cuts out the most casual thieves.
To go from 90% effective to 99% effective you engage in a progressively more high tech and more expensive game of one-up-manship with the thief that you will eventually lose. Given the time and technology, anything can be cut. The thief doesn't have to be neat either. If he ruins the bike frame, that's OK. He can still sell off the parts.
All commuter bikes weigh the same. You can commute on a 40 lb disposable bike with no lock, or ride a 20 lb bike and carry a 20 lb lock.
To go from 90% effective to 99% effective you engage in a progressively more high tech and more expensive game of one-up-manship with the thief that you will eventually lose. Given the time and technology, anything can be cut. The thief doesn't have to be neat either. If he ruins the bike frame, that's OK. He can still sell off the parts.
All commuter bikes weigh the same. You can commute on a 40 lb disposable bike with no lock, or ride a 20 lb bike and carry a 20 lb lock.
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Now on to the meat of the matter; do you know the difference in meaning between 'cheap' and 'cheaper'?
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I agree. I used to use only beaters, old bikes I had for years, and rentals. Now I only use folding bikes and take them folded up everywhere with me (no exceptions). These bikes are the closest thing to theft proof there is-yet even these are stolen when the owner/user locks them up and leaves them like regular bikes. They are theft resisitant at best, but these bikes have worked for me for a very long time (several years).
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If you live in New York City you can go to most police precincts and register your bike with the NYPD.
They etch an ID number on your bike so if your bike is stolen and the police recover it they can get it back to you. They also give you a decal to put on your bike so potential thieves know your bike is registered with the NYPD.
They etch an ID number on your bike so if your bike is stolen and the police recover it they can get it back to you. They also give you a decal to put on your bike so potential thieves know your bike is registered with the NYPD.
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There's something to be said about the beater idea.It just has to look like such a P.O.S. that no one would want to rip it off.You can't just paint the components because bike thieves aren't stupid.Newer components look like newer components.I have this 1971 CCM 5speed that I use as my go anywhere bike.I don't even carry a lock with me when I'm using it.There's not a piece on it that's not rusty,paint's faded and badly scratched up.But mechanically it is 100%.I got the bike out of the trash and had to put a rear brake cable and a tube to make it rideable.Well, it's been 2 full summers and I still have it.No takers!With the tires pumped up good and hard(50-60 psi) it really tours along.I've surprised more than a few road bikers on it by passing them with a rusty old bike.It's priceless.And if it ever does get ripped off, oh well,All I have in it is a couples hours worth of work.Bike was free + free parts = I've probably put 4-500 miles on it so far.Only thing I'd miss is the seat.
I always park next to the fanciest,shiniest bike in the rack and it just accentuates the "crappiness" that much more.Either that or just lay it on the ground near the door,make it look like it was just dumped there.If I'm really concerned because I'm in a particularly bad area,I'll let the air out of the tires(I carry a pump with me all the time).
I always park next to the fanciest,shiniest bike in the rack and it just accentuates the "crappiness" that much more.Either that or just lay it on the ground near the door,make it look like it was just dumped there.If I'm really concerned because I'm in a particularly bad area,I'll let the air out of the tires(I carry a pump with me all the time).
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Get the craziest looking recumbent you can find. Preferably with under seat steering and a short wheel base. Lock it up with a cable and I don't think you will have to many problems.
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When riding in a group, assign one rider to attend to the bikes. The attendant gets free coffee and a roll. When riding alone, and you're stopped at a coffee place like Starbuck's, find another bike rider sitting outside with his expensive bike and ask for a favor with a free scone.
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For Auto theft, there are bait cars. Somebody ought to make a comparable bike for bike thieves. Better yet, booby trap bikes, with two foot, spring loaded spikes, that shoot up through the seat...