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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    I hereby nominate myself as Chieftain of...

    RASTI.

    Link to reference.

    There is an apparent clique here on bikeforums.net of "pompous know-it-alls who possess the real truth."

    We have been dubbed RASTI for "Real, Avid, Serious, True, and Intelligent Cyclists with all the Right Stuff (as well as the only Right Answers blessed with the RASTI stamp of approval for Conventional Bicycle Wisdom.)" by I-L-T-B, and I would personally like to thank him for giving us such a clear and concise name.

    To qualify for membership, you must be of the honest opinion that LBS bikes are of better quality, better construction, and receive better after-the-sale support than mass market bikes purchased and any mass retailer. You must be willing to point out the defects in these mass market bikes as compared to LBS bikes, and be willing to arrogantly profess that the people that work on bikes all day at your average LBS are more qualified to do so than those that assemble and adjust the bikes at mass retailers. You must be willing to conclude that bikes found at an LBS are inherently more safe and reliable than those found at mass retailers.

    Further, you must be willing and able to withstand the heat applied by those that equate your criticism of mass market bikes to criticism of those that purchase and ride them.

    Since I so self-righteously believe that I have the proper jersey to lead this clique, I submit myself, with photo, for consideration as Chieftain of this clique.



    Should my nomination fail, I want to suggest that Rev. Chuck be considered in my stead.
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    I just(Put on my glasses and) read the jersey, excellent. I second your nomination. Ayes, Nays?
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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    Tough crowd, my post title obviously sucks.
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    That is all fine and good, except for the following:

    a.) you didn't come up with the name
    b.) those shorts are pornographically TIGHT

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    Well, I'm waiting to see where Retro Grouch comes down on the issue. Anybody with a moniker like that has got to be okay.
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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    Do you have to have color coordinated tires, bike and helmet to join? Better look out Wal-Mart will be doing that next year. I think that in general your propositions are correct, but not absolutely correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh7337
    That is all fine and good, except for the following:

    a.) you didn't come up with the name
    b.) those shorts are pornographically TIGHT
    a.) I specifically asked and was granted permission from I-L-T-B to use the name. There's that reading thing again.
    b.) Yes, perhaps they are. They are also quite comfortable.
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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by slagjumper
    Do you have to have color coordinated tires, bike and helmet to join? Better look out Wal-Mart will be doing that next year. I think that in general your propositions are correct, but not absolutely correct.
    Nope, that's OCP, although you may of course be associated with both cliques. I'm not fond of the look of that helmet, but it was a quick purchase after I shattered my last one. As our store was closing, it was the last adult helmet in the shop. Once I rode with it though... man this thing breathes well, much more comfortable than the Specialized helmet I had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl
    Tough crowd, my post title obviously sucks.
    Instead of "RASTI", I prefer another ILTBism: "Lords of the LBS". Sounds like a gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl
    a.) I specifically asked and was granted permission from I-L-T-B to use the name. There's that reading thing again.
    b.) Yes, perhaps they are. They are also quite comfortable.
    a.) indeed, you deem him more creative than yourself?
    b.) for the sake of chidren and other onlookers who may be adversely affected by your flamboyant and revealing choice of apparel, you should perhaps restrict the public display of such to whatever night-clubs cater to that type of festive adornment.

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    Twahl I do love your jersy and must have one do tell where you got it? Then again I could be hypnotized by those shorts.........shorts.

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    Arrogant Bastard Jersey can be found here.

    It seems like Josh is studying my shorts entirely too closely. I can't say that I've ever noticed (or cared about) anyone staring at my cycling shorts before. That's my quad muscles Josh, settle down.
    Tom

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    Ahh many thanks to for that.

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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    You're welcome. It's up to you to actually find one of their beers to try. There's a specialty wine shop here that carries it, a little pricey, but quite good if you like a full bodied beer. Double Bastard is...well, double the arrogance. Haven't found it locally but I get one when I can.
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    Ive actually had some, a bud of mine had it at a LAN party a couple months ago... wasnt bad wasnt great I'm to fond of my brew coming straight from the tap. Oh I'm all for you being chieftan if I can be a mindless drone? I can suck up good!

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    Tom (ex)Builder twahl's Avatar
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    Yes, only mindless drones can tell the difference in quality between Trek, Specialized, Giant, etc. vs. Next, Roadmaster, Mongoose, etc...

    You have tasted the arrogance and your sucking up skills are admirable! You will be assimilated.
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    Why are you belly breathing in that picture?

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    Is there room for roadies who commute on fixed gears?
    Cyclists of the world, unite! You have nothing to lube but your chains!

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    Quote Originally Posted by twahl
    a.) I specifically asked and was granted permission from I-L-T-B to use the name.
    Yes I did but You made up the qualifications.

    I'd add a RASTI member:
    Must have referred to himself/herself as a Serious, Real, True, or Aivid Cyclist in positive contrast to some group of cyclists that doesn't possess that special quality. That special quality may include:
    Touting bicycles which feature racing/touring features for ALL bicycling activities to include the cycling that the majority of cyclists do that never involves racing or long distance cycling. Touting features like drop bars, rock hard skinny saddles, very narrow tires, no fenders, clip ons/Clipless pedal systems, cycling costumes, etc., etc. Obsession with weight is a plus.Counting grams or cadence helps; Or obsession with others' weight is good too. Hydration packs and bicycling computers, anal retentive log keeping for daily commuting; commuting at speeds that require recovery time and special outfit are more plusses. None of this stuff is wrong and more power to those that like it; but spare the lectures about how use of such equipment reflects anything positive about the character or intelligence of the user.

    Don't worry, Twahl, you seem to still qualify for the RASTI label even with the revised qualifications; so wear your title with the pride you think it deserves. I'd nominate the oh-so Serious bkaapcke ('bent Brian) or the oh-so non plussed by the competition he bad mouthes, Rev Chuck as worthy spear carriers.

    You may think the RASTI label is strictly about the ability to recognize that a $75 bike may not offer what a $2,000 bicycle offers to the cycling enthusiast. You and your comrades have demonstrated an inability to recognize that large number of cyclists consider themselves just as Real as the Lance Wannabes and other Pompous Snobs who think their bicycle choice makes them something special.

    And all the name calling, inflated egoes and snide remarks from the RASTI Clique about their superiority based on their intelligence about cycling is a dang joke that they are too dense to recognize.
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    Been Around Awhile I-Like-To-Bike's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso
    Is there room for roadies who commute on fixed gears?
    They belong to the the BAB club.

    BadAssBarbarians

    But only if they are full of themselves and hipster jive.

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    Packfodding 3 caloso's Avatar
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    Oh, yeah. I gots the hipster jive. I park it in the garage between the lawn mower and the minivan.
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    My constituents demand to know where the said candidate stands on these issues:

    1) use of high-to-extreme-output blinkies. From your use of a mere Cateye TL-LD500RC, and no permanent headlight (?) they're concerned you may be soft on the visibility plank.

    2) frequent consumption of pizza

    3) will they need to shave their legs? because The Voices don't have legs


    That is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caloso
    Oh, yeah. I gots the hipster jive. I park it in the garage between the lawn mower and the minivan.
    Nah, That ain't good enuff. Youse got to jabber about rollin' fixed and kickin' in doors.

    But to be even handed, got to say this thread on the fixed gear list shows a bunch of those dudes have a great sense of humor:

    How many BFSSFG members does it take to change a lightbulb?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mechBgon
    My constituents demand to know where the said candidate stands on these issues:

    1) use of high-to-extreme-output blinkies. From your use of a mere Cateye TL-LD500RC, and no permanent headlight (?) they're concerned you may be soft on the visibility plank...

    That is all.
    That is certainly NOT all. The candidate must certify that the lights and batteries, and replacement batteries were obtained only from an LBS owner's approved source.

    And that helmet in OP's picture? Looks kinda like the exact same thing I saw for $8 at you know where. The candidate must cerify that he bought it for at least 5 or 10x that price from a righteous source. If not, why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
    That is certainly NOT

    And that helmet in OP's picture? Looks kinda like the exact same thing I saw for $8 at you know where. The candidate must cerify that he bought it for at least 5 or 10x that price from a righteous source. If not, why not?
    Do you have a picture of a similar helmet from X-Mart with proof of CPSC certification, weight and vent area? Didn't think so.

    Just for anyone that has not caught on yet. Me, Waldo, Twahl, Seely, and others have not said that the buyer of an X-Mart bike is stupid or that buying such a bike is wrong. This is something that ILTB is trying to allude (falsely) to. And that he believes. In his attempt to make us look like the X-Mart slammers, he is the one that says only the fool buys X-Mart.*
    If you only have $100 then go look at the X-Mart bike, as it is better than nothing. You might want to have someone familar with a wrench look at it before you ride it tho.
    If you are not sure that you want to get into riding bikes than the X-Mart special can be a way to go as well. Finding a freind with an extra bike is a better choice, but you do what you have to. Much like buying a TRS-80 because you think you might want a computer, you get what you pay for(Anyone remember StarTrek on the TRS-80 ? Awesome, in 1977 ).

    Since ILTB brought up helmets, make sure you find a certification from a legitimate source on a helmet before you stick it on your head, or more importantly your kids head.

    *This is my opinion only:
    WalMart is bad. They sell crap, tho it is at a very good price, even for crap. Buy local when you can. At the very least when you buy from a big box(We all have to, it is almost the only choice ) at least pick one with some freindly staff that does not sell pure ****.
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