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Old 09-14-06, 08:26 AM   #1
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2 days of rain.2 days to cycling.

This is the second day without a ride. And maybe three days to go until decent cycling weather. If only the mercury were over 70, I might go out for a warm ride in the rain. But, it is closer to 65. ENough to give one the flu.
Here, we have had like over 100 days, with only probably 2 days of cloudy skies. So no biking. Mabye no cycling for four whole days. And to think yesterday, I waterproofed my waterproof jacket. TO those in the sun belt, chilly weather is a shock.
Are you stir crazy after 3 days. I usually ride four days a week. So here, the likes of me are at bike forums the whole day long. I'd probably be out in the rain if two conditions were met.
1. My bike. I will not put that gooey wet lube on my good bikes drive chain. . I need a dedicated rain bike. 2. If I go out in the rain, it need be over a 70 degree rain.
Would you go out in the rain or prefer a trainer on the porch, watching the rain pour down, or spend the whole day on the net, or get a job.
Due to our present situation I am sort of living off of my wife's income. what a dilema. Could improve my language skills and get a job? Or just get all antsy.
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Choices, choices, choices... I say ride in the rain. A hot bath will feel good afterwards!
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I know the feeling! I wnted to ride this week too! Can't afford to get sick as I just got hired!!!!
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Go for it!

Funny, I just finished an hour long bike ride in the rain and the temperature was 8C (46F), and I was fine with a t-shirt, jeans, a fleece jacket, and a rainsuit over top.

At 65F, you probably wouldn't even need the fleece jacket. I think you should give it a shot. =)
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What are you talking about getting sick? I ride year-round up here in temps up to -30c and hardly get sick at all and when I do, its because my wife's brought something home from the classes she teaches. The key to riding in cold/wet weather is just dressing for it.

Its a good idea to have a bike you care less about for riding in the wet, but as long as you dry and relube everything after the ride, you're bike won't get ruined. Salt is a whole other story...
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I've biked in the rain the past 2 days between 60 & 65 with a wicking t-shirt, O2 Cycling Jacket, Aqua No Rain pants, helmet cover & booties. Quite dry, quite comfortable, quite warm. There is no such thing as bad weather, just bad clothing choices.
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Get some fenders, sissyboy.

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Saw some cyclists on the way to the movies tonight. They looked miserable. Probably we won't get another rainy day for weeks. Something about being wet in a chilly breeze. Its called wind chill.
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Last January we had 29 days out of 31 with rain. The average temperature was mid to high 30's, just a few degrees above freezing. I rode 2 hours a day every day.

Its called getting good raingear, and not that goretex crap. Then getitng past the phsychological part that it wont be enjoyable. Within 5 min of leaving the house, im up to temp and comfortable, and mostly dry
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IS there something other than goretex that does not feel like a tent? So glad I live in sunny climates. You got more days of rain in January then we get in a whole year. That's why three days of rain all in a row is a shock.
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Cyclezealot, my best suggestion is a lightweight rainjacket with pit zips (underarm zippers). Much better thatn goretex, which doesn't seem to breathe at all when it's wet. This is a better solution - not a good solution.
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www.showerspass.com their elite jacket breaths 2x better than goretex. But it is just a thin shell, and has no thermal properties, you still need to layer underneath. Just dont layer too much. It also is really only good in temps below 60, above that its just gets to warm. It has pit zips, a huge back vent, its the most breathable waterproof material you can buy (2x goretex) and is cut for cycling. The cuffs also are adjustable, i leave mine wide open so air vents up my arms when its raining.

Last year in temps in the 30-40's I could wear it, a long sleeve jersey, and an underarmor heat gear base. Underarmor cold gear was too warm. In the 30's I wore a silkweight wool and a long sleeve jersey and that jacket. Stayed warm, comfortable, and arrived at work no wetter or dripping in sweat than wearing a windbreaker on a dry day.

If you go uphill or full out your gonna sweat, with or without a waterproof jacket. The difference is ones that actually do breath will clear the sweat/humidity from inside the jacket once you get going at a more moderate pace.
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Cyclezealot, my best suggestion is a lightweight rainjacket with pit zips (underarm zippers). Much better thatn goretex, which doesn't seem to breathe at all when it's wet. This is a better solution - not a good solution.
Have to disagree about the goretex. Goretex material is being used by other manufacturers than the Goretex company. Some of these companies do not have the design correct. I have a Goretex that is 10 years old. It is waterproof and the only damp that occurs inside is seapage from the bottom of the jacket upwards after many hours of rain and riding. As far as rain clothing goes- this is probably the best you can get. However- in the height of the summer- I find it too warm in the warmer weather, and it is just a choice of the wrong jacket- Then it is a day for the cheap showerproof or no waterproof top at all. Just get wet till the rain goes away.

Big problem with a goretex is the cost, but if you can afford one, and you ride all year round in all weathers- then this is the top to go for.
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If I lived in Holland, i'd have to adjust. BUt, I don't . Appreciate some of the ideas other than Gore Tex.
One problem I don't like, cold wet feet. Nothing seems to work well down there. Also, seems the crotch area's stitching lets in water in the two pieces of rain gear I have. Hate a wet cold crotch.
So now we have the feet, crotch, neck, and face open to the elements that lets the cold rain run down you neck.
Then I dislike putting wet lube on my drive train. Impossible to get the crude off. And the sliding I feel when braking in the rain.
God, I sound like a complainer. Should the rain again go on more than three days, I will try to give it a go.
You know, sun worshipers living in the sun belt. We fear something about those living in the dark of Minnesota, Scandavia. So many days without sun and one becomes suicidal. Thats' what the researchers say.
heah. thanks for the lead on Shower Pass. I know the Shoe covers are a must for starters.

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I guess today I will bite the bullet and go out in the rain. Weather forecast just says rain again tomorrow. I presently only have neopreme shoe covers. So my socks will smell when I return. The thing about shoe covers. All my bikes are clipless. Water gets in through the openings for the cleats. Dry feet with clipless is impossible. My wife gets all upset when I ride her bike for long distances. But, it needs a washing anyway. It is gone should she need it for local errands, and it just has platform pedals.
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Have to disagree about the goretex. Goretex material is being used by other manufacturers than the Goretex company. Some of these companies do not have the design correct. I have a Goretex that is 10 years old. It is waterproof and the only damp that occurs inside is seapage from the bottom of the jacket upwards after many hours of rain and riding. As far as rain clothing goes- this is probably the best you can get. .
Then your not riding hard enough. It is not poor design of the jacket, its the fact the material itself needs a pu coating on it that makes it not work worth a crap. Goretex is a marketing success and a breathable waterproof failure. I stand by my statement that goretex is definatly not the best rainjacket material for a cyclist.
Dig up some of the other threads with links to 3rd party test sites. The us army material test lab rates gortex in the lower half of materials available. Research eVent as a material.
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To my knowledge, no human being has gotten the flu from doing something in cold rain. True, if you're cold and wet long enough your immune system might weaken enough to make it easier to get the flu...pneumonia i'm not sure about, but either way I've been caught in the rain walking in every temp kentucky has (about 15f to 105f) (not even biking but walking, usually 1/2 way along a 2 mile walk) and have yet to get anything from it.
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William Henry Harrison, the 16th President died of pneunmonia, after his Inaugural Speech was held in a cold rain for three hours.
I did have a short ride in the rain today. It wasn't bad. I used my regular vinyl rain jacket, since the sky was not totally threatening. Glad I did on the way back, I actually felt some sun. Rode up to Perpignan to find some Gore Tex friendly soap. Tomorrow, might be the bigger challenge. WInds are predicted as high as 90 KPH. Well, that keep one dry.
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