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Old 09-24-06, 06:03 PM   #1
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Dad, why can't we be normal like other families?

That's what my daughter asked me when I told her that we were biking to the birthday party. She wanted to know why we couldn't be normal and DRIVE to the party like everybody else. And of course when we arrived to the party we were the only people who were in spandex. Is she right? Are we freaks? By the way, it was a kid party and her spongebod jersey was a big hit.
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Most people would drive to the party, but that doesn't make them any more or less normal than you.

I can see where she's coming from. Kids typically don't want their parents to do anything to bring possible negative attention to them, and she's probably just paranoid someone might make fun of her.

And to answer your final question, no you're not freaks
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No, you're not a freak, but rather a dork. Remember when you were a kid? Almost anything your parents did was embarrassing, unless it was dangerous like riding a motorcycle, water sports on a powerboat, etc. Then you subject her to bicycling riding to a party in spandex? Good luck when she hits her teenage years. She's going to rebel more now to "clean up" her reputation as a dork when she was a kid. Maybe mountain bike clothing would be okay since mountain biking can be considered "dangerous."
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That's what my daughter asked me when I told her that we were biking to the birthday party. She wanted to know why we couldn't be normal and DRIVE to the party like everybody else. And of course when we arrived to the party we were the only people who were in spandex. Is she right? Are we freaks? By the way, it was a kid party and her spongebod jersey was a big hit.
Good to know that your daughter is perfectly normal. Just like all kids. She probably will refuse to get on the bike as she gets close to driving age. That's normal too. My kids got back into cycling in college, most do that too.

You're not freaks, but she is afraid her friends will think she is.
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That's what my daughter asked me when I told her that we were biking to the birthday party. She wanted to know why we couldn't be normal and DRIVE to the party like everybody else. And of course when we arrived to the party we were the only people who were in spandex. Is she right? Are we freaks? By the way, it was a kid party and her spongebod jersey was a big hit.

How old is your daughter? This shouldn't be new to you.

My daughter is 3 and just started Nursery school. This summer grandma took her shopping and she got a Straberry shortcake backpack. She was asked if she wanted the princess one, but she insisted on the Straberry shortcake one.

First day of school all the other girls had the princess one. What was the first thing out of her mouth when she got home?

"I want the princess backpack"

Maybe in the future a comprimise would do? Ride to the party but wear a normal pair of shorts.

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Hahahaha! My daughters thought that I wasn't normal. Now that they're in their mid 20's, I know at least one is happy about it!
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No, you're not a freak, but rather a dork. Remember when you were a kid? Almost anything your parents did was embarrassing, unless it was dangerous like riding a motorcycle, water sports on a powerboat, etc. Then you subject her to bicycling riding to a party in spandex? Good luck when she hits her teenage years. She's going to rebel more now to "clean up" her reputation as a dork when she was a kid. Maybe mountain bike clothing would be okay since mountain biking can be considered "dangerous."
I agree. Mountain bike clothing looks more "normal". REI sells chamois underwear. Then she could experiment with street clothes. Is she at an age yet where girls are highly aware of weight and really don't want to be overweight? You could appeal to her vanity.
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Is she at an age yet where girls are highly aware of weight and really don't want to be overweight? You could appeal to her vanity.
Yeah, but then he'd have to worry about the boys staring at her rock hard bicyclist ass.
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My view on kids' peer pressure can make monsters out of them. They get embarassed out of everything their parents are not. Like, 'my dad is a doctor you your dad works on an assembly line.' Kids' turn on their parents favoring the petty views of some bratty brats. How do parents handle this? I have no clue, but changing values would not be my solution. A person is what a person is, and thats what I would be.
Guess, I'd modify my behavior by putting soccer shorts over my lycra, but changing my beliefs for the popular culture; I'd be having to have long and serious talks with the daughter.
Next she will want you to drive a fast sports car, because someone else's partents drive a BMW convertible. Freaks, no you are the sane ones. You live your life as you see it.
If a child is properly raised the values of her family are more important than the values of her peers. Her peers are not the ones who nuture her. We have all been there. We know , the demands of our childhood peers is temporary and often cruel. With time, she should be proud of her athletic parents, compared to the couch potato parents of her friends. I know , the brats I recall in my childhood, wanted to make me ashamed of my parents. I am ashamed I sometimes bought into it. I hope they did not know the lies I once in awhile told to please my peers. Glad to know I grew out of it before it was too late.
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That's what my daughter asked me when I told her that we were biking to the birthday party. She wanted to know why we couldn't be normal and DRIVE to the party like everybody else. And of course when we arrived to the party we were the only people who were in spandex.
Was it your daughter's idea to wear spandex to a birthday party? That isn't normal.
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Even a pair of 'normal' shorts to put on over the cycling shorts would have helped.

The cycling really doesn't seem to be the issue. Getting dressed in biking kit for a birthday party does.
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The cycling really doesn't seem to be the issue. Getting dressed in biking kit for a birthday party does.
Yeah, making a kid wear spandex, not to mention wear it out to a birthday party, that's just cruel...

It probably doesn't have that much to do with driving. Maybe she associates cycling with being un-normal because you're not wearing normal clothes?
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Guess, i have to agree with the daughters apparel. Cycling to a party seems unique. Parties are festive affairs, not just an everyday event. If her feelings carry over to beyond that special day, then my original feelings still hold. Of course, we should all as individuals have our own choices to make. Just don't make demands upon others.
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i wouldn't ever show up at a party wearing spandex. that'd just be weird...
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i wouldn't ever show up at a party wearing spandex. that'd just be weird...
How about Halloween?

Otherwise I agree.
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She was right. You are freaks. At least in her world you are. So maybe you oughta start making more decisions based on how things are in HER world and fewer about your own.
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That's one reason I won't ever have kids. Most of the little sh!ts have herd mentality and zero independent thinking.

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Remember when you were a kid? Almost anything your parents did was embarrassing, unless it was dangerous like riding a motorcycle, water sports on a powerboat, etc.
But riding a bike in traffic IS dangerous - just ask any motorist out there.

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If a child is properly raised the values of her family are more important than the values of her peers.
Unfortuntely... not. Well, maybe not unfortunately - I don't think people have the right to demand that children will adopt their values, everybody has the right to form his own values - but the fact that children almost universally "favour the petty views of bratty brats" and have the desperate need for approval by their dumb peers is just so pathetic...

But now spandex - hmmm...
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Chephy. My wife is a teacher. I've ease dropped on 'bratty brats.' It might be pathetic, but with way too many it's true. The language and intemperate tone used by way to many US teens and preteens is shocking. Don't believe me, listen to them outside malls , where they congregate. Never have i heard such nastiness towards our fellow humans. I blame it on television.
Calling the parents freaks is a little harsh, but going to a daughters birthday party in spandex, is something, i would not do. Unless, it might be a cyclists gathering.
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My kids have flown the nest- but all the time they were dependant on me- I ruled. A birthday party is something special with a gathering of their friends and they all want that something special to wear- or way to arrive. Arriving by bike and in spandex does not meet either criteria of what your kid wants. You will find that as they get older- They get more demanding on what they will allow you to do. Drop them at the door and GO. at the end of the party- wait round the corner and they will come to you.

I used to set a time for my girls when I would pick them up. If I said 10 pm-- I expected them to be in the car at 10pm. If not- I used to go to the house and join in the party. That soon got them out of the party- dragging me behind them. I used to warn them That I would be doing this- but I used to turn up in an old pair of trousers- torn T shirt and slippers. They only were not in the car at the designated time once.
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My first child is on the way, and it's the thought of almost this exact conversation which has made me wait this long.
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Chephy. My wife is a teacher. I've ease dropped on 'bratty brats.' It might be pathetic, but with way too many it's true. The language and intemperate tone used by way to many US teens and preteens is shocking. Don't believe me, listen to them outside malls , where they congregate. Never have i heard such nastiness towards our fellow humans.
Cyclezealot - I think you misread my post. I do agree that it is in fact true, and that's why it's so sad and pathetic.

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I blame it on television.
The current trends in language, dress etc. - maybe. But the issue is much deeper than that. Basically, the way humans work is that in their childhood/preteen/teen stage the great majority of them will value the opinion of their peers higher than anything else in the world. One reason I will never have any kids...
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It probably doesn't have that much to do with driving. Maybe she associates cycling with being un-normal because you're not wearing normal clothes?
The daughter would probably be making the same association as a significent percentage (IMO majority) of the general public.
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If this was being normal I would have to find a new hobby. Must ...be...different.
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Chephy. I am sure you are right. A major factor is the workalcholic parents gone from the home 10 hours a day and more. Plus hatch key kids. But, once my wife worked at a private , religious based school catering to upper income people. I watched/listened to those kids at a couple dances, they were different but still, arrogrant and mean in their personal conversations.
Work is a factor, but I think it also has someting to do with our culture. Or lack thereof.
It is interesting to note the differences here. Yes, there are many rowdy kids . Particularily mid teens. But, parents have far more time off work. Parents seem to be with and doddle over their kids more. Lots of kissing, etc. the french way. both cheeks,. US kids would not be caught dead having a parent kiss their kid in public. ?
About my culture theory. I find European TV has a lot more variety of programming. Less, police shows, I'd have to search long to find an equivilant of Jerry Springer, ( unless you tune in the US channel.-'Jimmy." ) You can even find culture such as plays, classical concerts, travelogues. and you don't need 90 channels to have such programming.
And I have yet to see my first male student with pants below the underwear line; or a female with 9 inces of mid-riff showing.

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how about.. 'because the other families are fat and sloppy and will get heart disease..."
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