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Old 09-24-06, 06:40 PM   #1
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I rode through a pile of glass and got two flat tires

I was on a ride yesterday on the tandem with my daughter and we unavoidably flew through a ton of broken glass and got two flat tires. We had some basic 700 x 28 Continental Ultra 3000 tires. Question: Do you think that if we were riding 700 x 28 Continental Gatorskins that we would not have flatted?
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Old 09-24-06, 06:57 PM   #2
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One never knows, there are way too many variables to even guess. But,Gatroskins are flat resistant. Nothing is flat proof. I have switched all my bikes over to tires with Kevlar belts in them to help prevent flats, it works very well for me. It depends on what you ride over. Big things can get through, the small things that might give you a flat are often kept from penetrating.
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Like 2manybikes, I've gone to kevlar. The front is a Schwalbe Marathon Double Defense; I don't recall what's on the rear. I've had no flats since, but I also haven't ridden through a noticable amount of glass or whatever, so who knows if they're working or my luck has changed. Anyway, I feel the tires were a good investment. In one period, I had 5 flats in 5 days. You don't get much riding that way.
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I switched to 700x25c armadillos on my road bike. Kinda heavy (not a weight weenie) and I have ridden through some fields of glass without a flat. Will they always work. Probably not. But I am sold nonetheless.

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I gave up on GatorSkins and switched to Bontrager Hardcases. I've had 1 flat in 5000 miles with them. They do get cut up by road trash but they can withstand a lot more abuse than GatorSkins.
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I put two gatorskins on my tandem and that was the worst thing I've ever done to my baby! Armadillos are way better but feel heavy. Trade off it seems.

Flat on first ride with Gators. Second ride. Maybe 8 and 9th. Took off the rear then the front started. I have two gators in the closet with maybe 500. How do I say this nicely? They suck!...on a tandem anyway.
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I was on a ride yesterday on the tandem with my daughter and we unavoidably flew through a ton of broken glass and got two flat tires. We had some basic 700 x 28 Continental Ultra 3000 tires. Question: Do you think that if we were riding 700 x 28 Continental Gatorskins that we would not have flatted?
So how often does stuff like that happen to you?

There is no puncture-proof tire. There's only puncture resistant. I've dug a machete sized shard of glass out of a Specialized Armadillo tire and they've arguably got the best puncture resistance.

Now here's the interesting part. The things that make a tire more puncture resistant also make it harder riding and give it more rolling resistance. So buying bike tires is a process whereby you balance the level of puncture resistance that you're willing to live with with the comfort and performance that you want. Everybody draws that line differently and has their personal favorite tire.
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I put two gatorskins on my tandem and that was the worst thing I've ever done to my baby! Armadillos are way better but feel heavy. Trade off it seems.
Flat on first ride with Gators. Second ride. Maybe 8 and 9th. Took off the rear then the front started. I have two gators in the closet with maybe 500. How do I say this nicely? They suck!...on a tandem anyway.
I hate hearing that because I've got a couple extra gators in my closet too!
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I was on a ride yesterday on the tandem with my daughter and we unavoidably flew through a ton of broken glass and got two flat tires. We had some basic 700 x 28 Continental Ultra 3000 tires. Question: Do you think that if we were riding 700 x 28 Continental Gatorskins that we would not have flatted?
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