Originally posted by Waldo
You want facts? Big box bikes are designed to be disposible.
>What proofs are behind this statement?
If a 90 day warranty isn't indicative of that, I don't know what is.
>90 days is because they dont want to have too many people >comming back with replacements or repairs. It's a mass >production and mass selling business, there is a difference with >few people that u see in bike shops.
Simply because they have the same country of origin doesn't mean the bicycles are of comparable quality.
>I didn't say that...
>What I mean is, the price of the bicycle will be determinded by >the net cost, amount of money that manufacturer has to put >into it to build it. Money for the steel, different bolts, plastic, >rubber and so forth.
>Higher quality material is used, the higher the price will be. >However, it doesnt mean that the bike will be sold at a higher >price that those that were chaper to build.
>Let's say it costs $100 for to order all necessary parts to >assemble a giant bike. In order to make money, the price will go >150 for assembling plant, then it goes $170 for shipping it to >US, now you have retailer that also need profit. Here you go, >the price of the bike is over $250- $300.
>While from the factory, box withh all parts could be let go for >$100. If you dont agree with this concept, I have no other thing >to tell you.
All Shimano components are not of nearly the same quality, and I could go on and on from there.
>I dont know what's behind shimano. I am not an expert, a >seller, a shipment person, and I don't beleive you are as well.
Look closesly at an inexpensive bike at a LBS and at one at a big box store-you'll start to see many differences.
>We are not comparing the cheapest Wal Mart bikes.
>The beginning was about a Schwinn Wal Mart bike. Of course >roadmaster or some Glacier point is worse, as it has caliper >brakes, plastic brake levers, twisted black metal tube for the >pedal...
>Compare similar bike!
Pick 'em both up as well-there will likely be a substantial weight difference.
Yes, and the price is different. What makes the bike weight more is the steel frame and heavier rims.
Don't even get me started on build quality. Think your local Wal Mart even has a truing stand?
>We are not comparing a build quality. Already talked about this. >Look above.
It's like comparing a Chevy to a Cadillac-you get what you pay for.
>Said above. You are wrong with that statement.
I work at a bike shop so you might go so far as to say I have some experience in this area. I work on big box bikes all the time.
>What is a "big box bike"?
Usually by the time I get it in a suitable/safe riding condition it would've been cheaper to get a bike from me.
>Again, you are talking about labor of a bike shop technician.
Oh, didn't you used to be on Altimas.net?
>You have a personal problem with me? First you would have to >Tell me enough about >yourself, and I might consider answering >you on this!