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Old 04-22-03, 05:41 PM   #1
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wal mart bikes

I know you all hate wal mart bikes, but i need something and i only got 150 to spend. It will see mostly road and some LIGHT off roading. This is just to get me around. Now i am not sur of brand but i saw some at wal mart between 100 and 150. They had front shocks and a few had rear shocks. I think these might of been a mongoose. Now please don't get on a sop box about wal mart is junk and go to an lbs.. I just want to know if it will hold up to what i described. It will not get that much use, just a few trips to the store or what not.. So are these decent bikes?? And on frames, how much better is aluminum over a steel frame??

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For commuting, if you're on such a tight budget and want a new bike, a Walmart bike is fine. Hey, I used to have one. If you have some time, you can get a better one (and possibly cheaper) if you go used ... LBS or eBay is cool.

For road riding, get one w/o a shock, if that makes any difference in the price. Steel and aluminum won't make much difference, so go with the cheaper option.
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My original MTB was a Wal-Mart Mongoose. Wasn't that bad for the price. Trashed the cranks and bottom-bracket the first year though. But I rode it almost daily and on trails. For what you describe, it will probably hold up for quite a while. You can always replace the worn out parts later. If you anticipate more extreme riding in the near future though, I'd look for something a little more high-end.
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On a limited budget, try to avoid frills, such as suspension, which is worthless on-road and semiworthless on typical multitrack trails. If you do buy a *-Mart machine, be prepared to spend time and/or money replacing bearings. Better still, buy a good used bicycle from one of those myriad well-meaning souls who never got around to riding much.
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Got a nice 2002 Fuji Supreme Hybrid bike for $149 at Performance Bike Shop here in San Diego- 50% off! I use it for commuting to work and running to the store. Great bike for light on- and off-road use. I love it! (Especially for the price.) I was at the Performance near my home a few days ago, and they still had one left. So if you live near one of these stores, it doesn't hurt to look.
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If you're gonna buy from Walmart, then here's my pick

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...%3A4183%3A5297


It's so simple that there's not much to go wrong. Huffy also has a cruiser that's a little cheaper but not as stylish. Of course, you could probably find a "real" Schwinn cruiser for $100 or less if you start looking around.
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For your $150, you could buy a piece of trash from ***-mart and watch it fall apart within 1 year, or, you could buy a decent used bike and use it for the next 5. The choice is yours.
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I would certainly buy a used bike over a new *-mart bike anyday. I have a Univega custom Ten road bike I actually bought at a flea market, I fixed it up and rode it on a 250 mile ride... it cost me a whole $15 plus the cost of two new rubbers.. not a bad deal. You might want to find out what the classified section in your newspaper has to offer.. avoid road bikes (people think they can overcharge for a used one), Huffy, Murray, Roadmaster, Mongoose or Schwinn.. if you find something else, I say go for it.
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Don't forget Ross, Columbia, Next, Pacific, Magna, etc.....
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You could always buy that $150 Wal-Mart bike at a garage sale for $20. It probably would only have been taken for a ride 5 times!

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Well i know yalls opinion of wal-mart bikes is they suck. Well i got one tonight. I have no car..(i am almost 18) needed something to get around on. Well found an aluminum frame full suspension bike.. All shimano components, metal petals etc...It is made by dynacfaft. From what i was riding this thing is like a cadalack(sp??) It is going to work fine for my use. It only needed a few gear adjustments(iknow, if i bought from an lbs this wouldn't be neccesary, so please don't bring it up.) It was only a 100$$ normally 125$$ But i like it and that is all that matters.. Here is a picture of it.. It is the second one.. http://www.dynacraftbike.com/walmart_26_mens.htm

what ya think?? decent bike??

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Old 04-26-03, 08:58 PM   #12
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As long as you enjoy riding it, that is what truly matters.
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Old 04-27-03, 06:26 AM   #13
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what ya think?? decent bike??
No, not by a long shot.

BTW, the frame is not aluminum, only the "finish". It's a steel frame. Take a magnet to it, if you don't believe me.

That's the problem with ***-mart bikes-they convince unknowlegable people that they are getting something more than they really are. I'll bet that bike falls apart quicker than a monthly bus pass expires.

In the end, a decent $100 used bike would last you longer. Live and learn...
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Old 04-27-03, 06:50 AM   #14
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Since you've already bought the issue is sort of moot but I'll throw in some observations anyways.

Normally I'd say avoid X-Mart bikes like the plague unless you're buying for a 7 year old. However, Bicyclist Magazine actually has a reasonably favorable impression of the current Schwinns. The big fly in the ointment is the "assembly" which just about guarantees that lower line components/bearings/etc won't reach even their potential.

So my advice would be (and is to anyone else) to get the bike in the box and pay a LBS mechanic $50 to assemble/tune it for you. Odds are you'll find one who wouldn't mind the cash and your bike will at least run as well as it can. Personally, I'd still look used first, so many "mountain" bikes out there..
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D*alex, hate to burst your snob bubble but the frame is ALUMINUM!! a magnet does not stick!! And besides you should be glad i am riding a bike.. Even though it is a wal mart piece of trash, you should be glad i am riding. Most kids my age have a car by now, and wouldn't think of touching a bike. I am not hard on bikes and it should last me a while.. And besides some people can't afford a better bike. I bought this myself. I needed something to ride and this was all i can afford, so don't pick on my bike just cause you have a high dollar one..

Sorry to rant.. Snapper
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snapper, glad you're into cycling. Ride and enjoy! As you ride more and more you'll know what you want and when it's time to upgrade you'll be able to do it with some excellent knowledge.

There are certainly some real elitist in cycling and even (dare i say it) in this forum. Ignore them in favor of the tremendous amount of really valuable information others are able to offer. My short time on this forum has proven to me that most people here are really great and really want you to buy the right bike for your riding style, budget and fun. They want to help. Listen to them. As for the others, ignore and try not to feel too sorry for them, in the end, they deserve our pity, not our anger.

Sorry for the preach, but I really agreed with Snapper's comment about being happy he's riding.

That said. To everyone who suggested a good used bike: Where can I find a decent, inexpensive ($100-150) used hybride/low end mountain bike??? I've been checking the paper and even doing some yard sales and no luck. Do I just continue to hope to get lucky or am I missing some avenues. No bike shops in my area (Central NJ) offer used bikes. Seriously, any help will be appreciated
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W/O any LBS your search may be hit or miss. If you know what size bike you need the internet and particularly eBay offers opportunities. Any colleges nearby? Students dump their bikes as they graduate or transfer. Sheck bulletin boards in dorms/cafeterias/student unions.

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As you said, it's good to be riding. I hope you get a satisfactory amount of use out of it. Hopefully by the time it wears out, you'll have enough dough for a much nicer bike. Believe me, once you've experienced quality, you won't want to go back. When I compare my Trek to my Huffy, I'm amazed I ever enjoyed riding the Huffy.
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Yeah, garage sales are only usually good for the sub-$20 bikes (which were originally $79 ***-mart bikes), so, want ads are pretty much your best bet. Still, a trip to a NYC or Philadelphia bike shop that sells used bikes would give you more choice than you're likely to find in the Pine Barrens...
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Garage sales.. newspaper.. e-bay.. um.. check at yoru LBS possibly they have a listing of people selling their old bikes.. thrift shops.. pawn shops.
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Thanks, all. I think as the weather continues to turn nice here and people start thinking about cleaning out their homes, I'll find more ads and opportunities. Agree that the yard sale route is filled with $20 and under--Not what I want.

Ideal would be about a$100 used name brand bike in decent condition. The odds are in favor of a 2-3 year old low end trek or somthing like that.

I'm in NYC quite abit, so if you know of a shop that sells used bikes, like me know--have not come across one yet...Most shops tell me it's not worth the hassle. bikes need a lot of work and customers expectations are for a new, scratch free bike, but at a 1/3 of the cost!!
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I was at XMart last night and looked at the $111 schwinn bmx, components were at least as good as the $200 bmx at the bike shop, frame, rims, brakes, everything identical. the bike needed some assembly adjustment as far as brakes and handle bars but that was it. used bikes are usually rust buckets, i've found two good ones in 5 years. I don't like XMart bikes but they have their place like if I worked at burger joint and had to park it outside during the shift, $53 roadmaster would be it or on school grounds same thing.
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Well....... I've been searching in New York City for the past three weeks and found it hopeless. Even beater bikes that are decades old cost $150.00 at best. When the 3 speed deal fell through, I decided to head to ToysRUS for that Toy bike of my dreams.

This Saturday, I purchased a Pacific bike to use as a junk cycle in Manhattan. The dual suspension bike was so poorly assembled, only three gears were working. The front derailler is a mess. The headset was assembled incorrectly and the crank is making some clicking noise already.

On a positive note. The front break was assembled correctly. I guess the builder was told to do this right or else the store could face possible litigation. The rear break is a mess. The suspension does work but I'm not sure for how long. The paint job was very nice and I think this is where Pacific spent most of the money on when manufacturing the bike! It doesn't matter as this bike will last me only 4 months as the cycle will save me over $250.00. I also want to see how long this bike lasts as it will stay parked on the mean streets of Manhattan 24/7.

I could not recommend this bike if someone CANNOT fix bicycles because this cycle is DANGEROUS to ride. I'm serious. I'm going to spend the next 2-3 hours reassembling this bike from scratch so I can ride it SLOWLY in Manhattan to work for 15 blocks each day.

There were some cruisers in ToysRUS that I could recommend. The only reason why I didn't buy a cruiser was because it didn't have any gears and I wish one was a three speed. When I think about it, maybe I should have bought one of them as the 27 dual suspension mountain bike is a mess.

Folks. I could not believe how poorly this bike was assembled compared to my other bikes I purchased at the LBS. Seriously. I can't stress how terrible this bike was put together. Why can't these toy stores sell three speed hub gear bikes? It would be far better to have a hub gear bike with three working gears than a 27 gear mountain bike with 2 or 3 gears that work some of the time.
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The only thing I like about walmart is that there is nothing they sell that you can't buy somewhere else.
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Assembly and quality are the two things a LBS can offer that an "X-Mart" bike cannot. Shops cannot compete with the low prices. I've seen some poorly assembled bikes in the "X-marts" around here, but I know of some local mechanics who get some part-time work putting these bikes together for the stores. I've seen stuff that scares me, like 3 cross spokes that didn't cross. Suspension forks installed backwards. Front and rear cable reversed. All sorts of things. I've seen some stuff, that makes me wonder if the assembler was a disgruntled employee.

However, I've seen a lot of bikes that are/were fine. I really don't see the point in bashing "X-mart" bikes. The repair of said bikes can sustain a LBS for years!

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