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Old 02-13-07, 10:18 AM   #1
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Bikes Coated In Ice

So I woke up this morning to find that last night's snow and ice howling wind extravaganza had somehow found its way under the garage door and between the various cracks in the door (where it folds when going up or down). It had blown inside, melted because of the higher temperature, and frozen back over. My Specialized Roubaix (carbon fiber) and Marin San Anselmo (aluminum) were coated in ice and snow. This can't be good for the bikes, can it? Any recommendations or things to look for?
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Sheesh. It's just water. After it melts, pretend you just washed them and wipe them down.

Then take a valium or something.

And don't tell my bikes that I'm supposed to freak out if they get wet.
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what was the problem again?
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Old 02-13-07, 11:12 AM   #4
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I realize that the bike is probably not going to crumple up and die if it gets frozen, but that's with steel and aluminum and other metals. How does ice affect a 100% carbon bike?
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the same way fiberglass is affected, it wont hurt it a bit
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Water expands enough when it freezes into ice to be able to crack rocks, so I wouldn't just write off the risk. However I agree it probably wouldn't do any damage under normal conditions, because there aren't many semi-sealed cracks for the water to collect in on a bike, and it probably never freezes nearly fast enough.
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I realize that the bike is probably not going to crumple up and die if it gets frozen, but that's with steel and aluminum and other metals. How does ice affect a 100% carbon bike?
Sorry. Your OP sounded like you were freaking out, sort of like I've seen some OCP riders freak out over mud on their tires.

The thing manufacturers want you to forget about, is that the full name of the material is "carbon fiber reinforced plastic". When people think of plastic bikes, they think of Big Wheels, so the manufacturers want you to forget the plastic part. Besides, carbon sounds sexier.

CFRP is made the same way as fiberglass, substituting carbon fiber reinforcements for glass fiber reinforcements. Resins and catalysts--the components that make the plastic--are similar, but not identical.

So the comparison to fiberglass is a valid one. Remember, they make boats, bathtubs and Corvettes out of fiberglass. Water and ice don't bother them a bit.
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I'd be more worried about the chain. My bike was buried in 2 feet of snow for one day, and the chain was very oxidized, and in need of lubricant.
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looks more like slush than ice... If I were really concerned about it, 'd put a beach towel under it, then place a space heater or the like a few feet away from it. If you were REALLY concerned, use a hose with warm water to unfreeze it fairly fast. Really though, I doubt the ice is going to do any lasting damage to your bike.
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Should be ok. At this point you've just got to thaw it out. It probably coated relatively slowly, as opposed to having a significant volume of water freeze and expand around it, so each layer would be effectively free of stress.

Here's another cool pic of a frozen bike I got a few years back. Not mine.
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Water expands enough when it freezes into ice to be able to crack rocks, so I wouldn't just write off the risk. However I agree it probably wouldn't do any damage under normal conditions, because there aren't many semi-sealed cracks for the water to collect in on a bike, and it probably never freezes nearly fast enough.
rocks crack when the water is inside them, not outside. Ice expands and pushes outwards.
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That was my point, it would need to be inside an almost completely enclosed crack or w/e, and I can't think of any of those on a bike.
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Sheesh. It's just water. After it melts, pretend you just washed them and wipe them down.

Then take a valium or something.

And don't tell my bikes that I'm supposed to freak out if they get wet.


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Now, I realize this isn't carbon fiber, but all the other parts are relatively similar. Looks like it still works to me.
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