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Old 02-17-07, 10:47 AM   #1
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Bike Seat Review

Hi,

Has anyone tested this seat (The BIG ONE) from Seatguy:

http://seatguy.com/

I'm asking you since the reviews I found online, while glowing, are the reviews posted on the seller website so I don't know if I can trust that they posted a representative sample.

I just bought a mountainbike and after 3-4 miles my upper inner tights are hurting as hell. I am 6'1", about 230lbs and I will use the bike mostly for a daily two-way 1 mile ride plus various similar errands, so issues about the performance of the seat over long-distance riding are not that relevant for me. I'm looking for comfort (or rather lack of pain) first and I'm not sure that buying more expensive seats is worth the investment given my needs.

With the above said, I welcome any other recommendations you guys might have.

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Old 02-17-07, 11:27 AM   #2
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Hi,

Has anyone tested this seat (The BIG ONE) from Seatguy:

http://seatguy.com/

I'm asking you since the reviews I found online, while glowing, are the reviews posted on the seller website so I don't know if I can trust that they posted a representative sample.

I just bought a mountainbike and after 3-4 miles my upper inner tights are hurting as hell. I am 6'1", about 230lbs and I will use the bike mostly for a daily two-way 1 mile ride plus various similar errands, so issues about the performance of the seat over long-distance riding are not that relevant for me. I'm looking for comfort (or rather lack of pain) first and I'm not sure that buying more expensive seats is worth the investment given my needs.

With the above said, I welcome any other recommendations you guys might have.

Flaviu I.
I am 6'1" 230....and frankly I would not touch that saddle with a 10ft pole. If you just bought the bike and just started riding it regularly, give your butt and legs some time to get used to it before shopping for a new saddle. Bike fit is also important. Pain in your thighs could mean that your saddle is too low or that you are pushing too high of a gear. Here is a decent reference for adjusting your bike to fit you: http://www.sbraweb.org/setup.htm - or have your local bike shop help you adjust the bike to fit you properly.

If you do decide, after getting the bike dialed in and riding for a few weeks, that you want another saddle, I highly recommend looking at a Brooks B-17. http://www.wallbike.com/B17.html
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Old 02-17-07, 11:31 AM   #3
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Cool! A spongey butt jabber! Get a Brooks and thank me later.
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If you are currently only riding 3-4 miles daily and are having issues with thigh pain, it sounds as if you are just new to riding. Give yourself a month or so of daily riding, with longer rides thrown in. You may find by that time that you are quite used to the saddle.

I would NOT recommend a big, spongy, gel foam filled saddle.

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Old 02-17-07, 01:55 PM   #5
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Your butt can get very sore the first few times you ride. It takes a few weeks of riding for the area to toughen up. After that happens, assuming that you have a properly fitting bike and are sitting with a proper posture on a decent seat, the pain is greatly reduced or disappears.

If you're getting chafing from your thighs rubbing together, I would suggest getting some kind of lycra shorts to wear. You can wear it beneath your pants if you want to look casual. Bike shorts are the best solution, but those are expensive. Compression shorts for runners will work to reduce friction. Wear the lycra next to the skin without underwear and get a size that fits snug, not loose. The seams and edges on underwear can rub your skin raw in a short amount of time.

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Old 02-17-07, 03:14 PM   #6
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I just bought a mountainbike and after 3-4 miles my upper inner tights are hurting as hell.
Unless "upper inner thighs" is an euphemism for something here, it doesn't sound like the pain caused by a bad saddle. A bad saddle will cause pain and/or numbness around the bum/family jewel region, but thighs?? The only way I can imagine a saddle causing pain in the thigh region is chafing - which is a problem solved by getting a narrower - not wider - saddle. And/or lycra shorts as others here already mentioned.

So could you describe in more detail why you think the seat is causing this trouble?
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Old 02-17-07, 03:18 PM   #7
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Could you describe your pain a bit more? I can't tell if you mean that you are getting muscle pain or chafing. If it is chafing on your thighs, the last thing you want is a wider saddle. I know new riders don't like to here it, but maybe consider a pair of bicycling shorts as well. You can wear them under regular shorts if you feel a little self conscious in lyrca.
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Ditto on the bike specific shorts advice. They really do work to reduce friction, which causes the chafing. No underwear.

If you are not chafing, perhaps you are refering to a sensation of something like a charlie-horse? If so, that's the piniforis mauscle. It is a strap that starts up in the pelvis and wraps back around the the rear and joins the top of the femur at the hamstring. Very up high and inside/behind, sort of. If that's what you are feeling, get a saddle that has a narrower peak that doesn't have as much flair as it transitions to the seat area. Another Brooks endorsement here. I'll see if I can sketch tthis out:

http://i12.tinypic.com/3z1y452.jpg
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As a general rule people take one of two quite different approaches to selecting a bike saddle.

One way is to look to people who ride bicycles a lot and buy a seat that's similar to what they ride.
The other approach is to listen to the "revolutionary new seat" salespeople who say that all of these experienced riders are traditional bound and wrong.

So if you were buying a parachute insted of a bicycle seat whose advice would you take?
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Regarding bike shorts: I have 'em, I like 'em, I wear 'em when I'm out doing centuries and whatnot. But I have a firm belief that nobody should NEED to wear cycling-specific clothes to ride three miles without pain. Bike shorts seem like too much trouble when we're talking that sort of distances. I would look for a solution that didn't involve bike shorts.
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Regarding bike shorts: I have 'em, I like 'em, I wear 'em when I'm out doing centuries and whatnot. But I have a firm belief that nobody should NEED to wear cycling-specific clothes to ride three miles without pain. Bike shorts seem like too much trouble when we're talking that sort of distances. I would look for a solution that didn't involve bike shorts.
Yeah, fair enough.
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Regarding bike shorts: I have 'em, I like 'em, I wear 'em when I'm out doing centuries and whatnot. But I have a firm belief that nobody should NEED to wear cycling-specific clothes to ride three miles without pain. Bike shorts seem like too much trouble when we're talking that sort of distances. I would look for a solution that didn't involve bike shorts.
I am not saying bike shorts are a must by any means, as I ride a great deal in regular old jeans myself. My guess from reading the OP is that this is a friction/chafing issue. Bike shorts may be a fairly cheap way to alleviate some discomfort while the OP gets in better shape and finds the saddle that works best for his needs. Regardless, a wider saddle seems more likely to make the problem worse than better.
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"...and I'm not sure that buying more expensive seats is worth the investment given my needs. -FlaviuI

You are right, it's not. I found seats/saddles that fit me because I experimented and was lucky enough to buy a second hand bike that had a great saddle that fits a woman's-um-curves at the critical points. Since then, I bought saddles similar to that original one and is pleased to say it works for me. Try to notice how you are shaped to the points of where the bike contacts you directly and you would never go wrong!
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Hi,,,, I welcome any other recommendations you guys might have....
If you don't ride very far, cheapest/easiest is to just tough it out and put up with the pain. Of course, a lot of bicycle people with limited experience will tell you that no matter how far you intend to ride, but anyway.

The saddle is not the problem, the frame is.
Overpadded and ergo saddles generally don't work right on normal bicycles. Overpadded saddles cause more groin chafing and ergo saddles force you to lean forward more, resulting in more hand-arm pressure. You can't really "fix" a regular bicycle by putting a different seat on it.

If a regular bicycle works for you then great--but if you're not comfortable on a regular bicycle then don't throw any more money away on them. Bicycling doesn't have to hurt, and a bicycle that hurts to ride is no bargain at any price.

There are bikes available that are more comfortable than what you've got: investigate the RANS Fusion, Lightfoot Surefoot, Sun SunRay or Day6Bicycles. Even more comfortable is a recumbent: two lower-priced ones are the Sun EZ-1 and Cycle Genius Starling.
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