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Old 02-20-07, 12:18 AM   #1
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Details on 2005 Jamis Coda Sport - please help

I am looking at buying a 2005 Jamis Coda Sport but I can't find details about it. The Jamis website has this year's and last year's models (2007 and 2006) ... but not the 2005.

Specifically:
(1) Is it a 24 speed or a 27 speed?
(2) Are there any differences between the 2006 and 2005? The frames seem to be the same, but are all the components all the same? Anything updated or changed?

Please help, I've got to give them an answer tomorrow (Tuesday) afternoon and I just want to make an informed decision.

Here's the best I can figure out from an older bikeforums.net post ... but I can't tell if it's a 2004 or a 2005. (the post is from December 2004)

* JAMIS CODA SPORT

FRAME Reynolds 520 double-butted chromoly main tubes, reinforced head tube collars, double tapered cromo stays, forged dropouts with eyelets.
FORK Chromoly unicrown, bulge butted steerer, low rider braze-ons, double eyelets.
HEADSET Aheadset, steel, 1 1/8”.
WHEELSET Alex ACE18 alloy double-wall /eyeletted rims, 700c, 36H, with Shimano Road 2200 hubs, double butted 14-15g stainless steel spokes.
TIRES Hutchinson Flash, 700 x 28C.
DERAILLEURS Shimano Deore rear, Shimano R443-A bottom pull front.
SHIFTERS Shimano ST-R223 for flat-bar, 24-speed.
CHAIN KMC CN-HG73.
FREEWHEEL SRAM PowerGlide PG-830, 8-speed, 11-32.
CRANKSET TruVativ Touro, 52/42/30, 170mm (16-17.5”), 175mm (19.5-23”).
BOTTOM BRACKET TruVativ PowerSpline, 68 x 113mm.
PEDALS Wellgo full alloy platform type.
BRAKESET Tektro SU12 direct pull brakes with power modulator and Shimano V-brake levers.
HANDLEBAR Ritchey Comp flat bar, 6061 T-6, 5° bend x 580mm width.
STEM Ritchey Pro Adjustable, 100mm (16-17.5”),
120mm° (19.5-23”).
GRIPS WTB Street Smart with reflective end plugs.
SEATPOST Suspension, 45mm travel, 350mm x 27.2, alloy clamp with QR seatpin.
SADDLE Selle Royale Freccia with Renna top and steel rails.
SIZES 16”, 17.5”, 19.5”, 21.5”, 23”
COLORS Super Blue
WEIGHT 25.00 lbs

here's a clip from a 2005 catelogue:


Here's another side with spec's:
http://tinyurl.com/2gdtgs
CODA SPORT

>Frame: Reynolds 520 double-butted chromoly main tubes, double tapered cromo stays.
>Fork: Chromoly unicrown with low rider braze-ons.
>Wheels:Alex ACE18 eyeletted rims, Shimano 2200 road hubs, double-butted stainless steel spokes.
>Tires: Hutchinson Flash, 28C.
>Shifters: Shimano Deore rear derailleur, R223 flat-bar shifters, TruVativ Touro PowerSpline crankset, 24-speed.
>Brakeset: Tektro SU-12 alloy direct pull brakes & Shimano R223 brake levers.
>Cockpit Ritchey Comp bar, Ritchey Pro adjustable stem, suspension seat post, Selle Royale Freccia saddle.
>Weight 11.1kg (24.47 lbs) (without pedals) [others say it’s 25lbs with pedals]

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Old 02-20-07, 02:04 AM   #2
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What exactly are you concerned about? If you don't know *exactly* what you want as regards bike components I don't think you'll notice any minor differences that might have happened from year to year.

FWIW, Jamis makes great bikes for a great price.
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Old 02-20-07, 09:18 AM   #3
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I have a 2006 Jamis Coda Sport. I don't know about the 24 vs. 27 speed but Jamis does tweak their components every year slightly. I'd definitely go for the 2005 if you're getting a good deal. It's highly unlikely you'd notice the difference in gearing.
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Old 02-20-07, 11:22 AM   #4
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Thanks Lurker1999, I agree that the difference is likely negligible in terms of function. I just had a heck of a time replacing 7 speed components (basically shifters, rear derailer, cassette) on my old mountain bike recently because they are just out of use. I think I won't have to replace drivetrain parts on the Jamis Coda for a while in terms of years or miles ... but times change and 8 speed may be harder to find in a couple years. Not hard or impossible, and not even a deal breaker, but just wanted to know going into this what I was getting into. I'll ask the seller today before confirming the buy. It's new, old-stock and it is a good deal (under $500).

Anyone with a 2005 Jamis Coda Sport who can offer their $0.02 on these two questions:
(1) Is the 2005 a 24 speed?
(2) Is the rear wheel 36h? (the 2006 and 2007 are 32h ... which is actually worse for me as a clydesdale)
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Thanks Lurker1999, I agree that the difference is likely negligible in terms of function. I just had a heck of a time replacing 7 speed components (basically shifters, rear derailer, cassette) on my old mountain bike recently because they are just out of use. I think I won't have to replace drivetrain parts on the Jamis Coda for a while in terms of years or miles ... but times change and 8 speed may be harder to find in a couple years. Not hard or impossible, and not even a deal breaker, but just wanted to know going into this what I was getting into. I'll ask the seller today before confirming the buy. It's new, old-stock and it is a good deal (under $500).

Anyone with a 2005 Jamis Coda Sport who can offer their $0.02 on these two questions:
(1) Is the 2005 a 24 speed?
(2) Is the rear wheel 36h? (the 2006 and 2007 are 32h ... which is actually worse for me as a clydesdale)
Why don't you either ask the seller or call a Jamis dealer and ask them?
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Old 02-20-07, 03:03 PM   #6
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Thanks Lurker1999, I agree that the difference is likely negligible in terms of function. I just had a heck of a time replacing 7 speed components (basically shifters, rear derailer, cassette) on my old mountain bike recently because they are just out of use. I think I won't have to replace drivetrain parts on the Jamis Coda for a while in terms of years or miles ... but times change and 8 speed may be harder to find in a couple years. Not hard or impossible, and not even a deal breaker, but just wanted to know going into this what I was getting into. I'll ask the seller today before confirming the buy. It's new, old-stock and it is a good deal (under $500).

Anyone with a 2005 Jamis Coda Sport who can offer their $0.02 on these two questions:
(1) Is the 2005 a 24 speed?
(2) Is the rear wheel 36h? (the 2006 and 2007 are 32h ... which is actually worse for me as a clydesdale)
Yes, the `05 Coda Sport is a 24-speed and it does have a 36H rear wheel. I got mine much the same way you are your`s---a good deal on a new, unsold `05 model, which I preferred to the `06. The newer models have too many decals, 32H wheels, and some of the `06 models that I saw had a lesser-quality bottom bracket. I`d much rather have the beefier specs than the 3 extra gears since I commute everyday, sometimes with 20 or 30 lbs of stuff, so durability was more of an issue. The only changes I made were bar-ends, a regular seatpost( the stock suspension seatpost wasn`t needed with that sweet-riding cro-mo frame), and some wider tires. The Codas are great city/commuter bikes and are highly regarded in these forums. Not only are you getting a helluva deal, you`re also getting a helluva bike. Congrats and enjoy!
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Old 02-20-07, 03:09 PM   #7
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Yes, the `05 Coda Sport is a 24-speed and it does have a 36H rear wheel. I got mine much the same way you are your`s---a good deal on a new, unsold `05 model, which I preferred to the `06. The newer models have too many decals, 32H wheels, and some of the `06 models that I saw had a lesser-quality bottom bracket. I`d much rather have the beefier specs than the 3 extra gears since I commute everyday, sometimes with 20 or 30 lbs of stuff, so durability was more of an issue. The only changes I made were bar-ends, a regular seatpost( the stock suspension seatpost wasn`t needed with that sweet-riding cro-mo frame), and some wider tires. The Codas are great city/commuter bikes and are highly regarded in these forums. Not only are you getting a helluva deal, you`re also getting a helluva bike. Congrats and enjoy!
Thanks Keytree, I just bought the 2005 Sport for $480 and I'm pretty happy with the deal, it should arrive in a week.

Well, I bought the bike today from bicycleblowout.com (the website of a shop in Nevada, they sell locally and online - they are directly connected with Jamis somehow and get some of their new old-stock, i.e., last year's models).

No one seems to have these Jamis Coda's or Coda Sports in stock locally (and even not so locally). And the one shop I was able to find one in was a 2007 Sport in 19.5" which is too big for me.

Bicycleblowout had the 2005 Jamis Coda Sport for $479.99 in 17.5" ... last Coda or Coda sport they had in this size, they have some others in 19.5 or 21.5 and something in 16".

Basically, here were the prices after tax I was looking at (keeping in mind I was willing to pay more to buy locally):

Locally:
2007 Coda - $487 (on order, 1+ month)
2007 Coda Sport - $623 (only 19.5", for 17.5 on order, 1+ month)

Bicycleblowout:
2006 Coda: $379.99 (ran out of 17.5" a day ago)
2006 Coda sport: $519.99 (ran out of 17.5" recently)
2005 Coda sport: $479.99 (I bought the last 17.5")

Essentially the decision was made for me because the LBS couldn't get these models any time soon and no guarantee that they'd get them at all (Jamis, like most companies, gives first preference in ordering to those shops which pre-purchase more bikes earlier in the season, no LBS who does that so they all can only order and hope). Bicycleblowout ran out of my size in the 2006 models, so the last 2005 was the only option left in my size. It's $7 less than the 2007 Coda and comes with some substantial improvements and some things that are not as good at the 2006 or 2007:

2005 Coda sport vs. ...
(1) The 2005 Sport has 36h eyeletted wheels, which is good b/c I'm heavy, vs. 32h non-eyeletted wheels on the 2007 Coda or 32h eyeletted wheels on the 2007 Sport. 2005 Sport best meets my needs.
(2) Ritchey adjustible stem vs. generic adjustible stem on the Coda (same Ritchey stem on the 2007 Sport). Prefer the Ritchey stem, probably would work just the same as the generic one though, a wash.
(3) 2005 Sport has 24 speed. 2007 Coda has 24 speed but lower end components. 2007 Sport has 27 speed, similar level components. This is a wash as far as I'm concerned.
(4) 2005 Sport 25lbs, 2007 Coda 26.25lbs, 2007 Sport 25.75 ... the 2005 Sport is the lightest!
(5) $480, $487, $623. 2005 Sport is the cheapest!

I think this worked out great, thanks for the help everyone!
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FWIW, some user reviews on the 2005 and 06.
http://www.roadbikereview.com/mfr/ja...7_5672crx.aspx
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It`s not surprising that you had some difficulty finding them. Jamis bikes in general, and the Codas in particular, aren`t as common as some of the biggies, which is kinda cool in a way, especially since they`re such damn good bikes. It took me a while to find mine, too, and there`s still nothing else in its class that I`d rather have or ride as a commuter. Let us know how you like it.
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Thanks keytree, good information. Any chance you'd post a few pics of your bike?
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I wish I could but I don`t have the means to do so at present. Just imagine your`s with a larger frame, shorty bar-ends, some 700x38`s and you`ve pretty much got it. Understated and stealthy Urban Assault Bike.
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Here are photos of my 2006 Jamis Coda Sport, set up as my primary commuter:




Kryptonite Fahgettaboudit stuck through my rear rack. Due to the weight of the lock it doesn't bounce around much even without a tie-down.


My home-made Dinotte tail light mount fastened to a medium Novara seatbag. It raises the light up some and allows me to adjust the angle to level the light out.


All of the Jamis and Coda Sport stickers have been covered with reflective tape that I layered over some blue painter's tape to allow for later removal.


L&M Arc HID mounted to the front bars. There's also a hidden Incredi-bell. Right now the bike is missing a Zefal Cyclop mirror which I smashed and is being replaced.


I put Titec shortie bar ends on the handlebars.


SKS Chromoplast fender with a home-made mudflap. The nice thing about the stock front fork is that it has mounting points for a real front rack in the event I decide to add one.


Another shot of the front mudflap. I'm not sure the reflector does anything but it was convenient to hold the mudflap onto the fender.


Both the LD-1000 and Dinotte turned on.


Offset shot of the L&M Arc HID
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Old 02-21-07, 12:15 AM   #13
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Great pics! Thanks for plenty of great ideas! Do you like the bar ends or would you go with something different now that you've used these for a while. I'm considering a north road bar or a moustache bar for more hand positions including something a little more upright. Or maybe the Crane Creek Ergo Control bar ends. What do you think?

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Now that`s what I call a commuter. Nice lookin` ride, Lurker.

As far as bar-ends are concerned, jbrams, you can find decent ones in the 15-20 dollar range. My shorties give me a couple more hand positions, help with leverage while climbing, and allow me to stretch out into a more aero position. I prefer the flat-bars for city riding. All my needed controls are within the reach of a thumb or forefinger.
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Great pics! Thanks for plenty of great ideas! Do you like the bar ends or would you go with something different now that you've used these for a while. I'm considering a north road bar or a moustache bar for more hand positions including something a little more upright. Or maybe the Crane Creek Ergo Control bar ends. What do you think?
I commute in Boston city traffic which essentially means I never take my hands far from the brakes. Ever. So for me they work fine, allowing for a few additional hand positions on those occasions I do take a ride somewhere without a lot of traffic. I thought about getting another type of bar but I'm pretty satisfied with this straight bar. I'd prefer to keep the width of the bike the way it is. As is, when I have both sides of the rack loaded up with panniers I already need to take care I have enough clearance.

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Now that`s what I call a commuter. Nice lookin` ride, Lurker.
Thanks a lot! I'm really glad I got the '06 vs. the '07. Personally I hate the new color scheme on the '07 Coda Sport.

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[QUOTE=Lurker1999]I commute in Boston city traffic which essentially means I never take my hands far from the brakes. Ever.

Total agreement on having hands near those brakes in city riding. I often find my pinkies reflexively hovering over the brake levers when in congested or crowded areas, just waiting to clamp down if needed. BTW, does anyone else notice how many "close calls" often involve some goofball cager yakkin` on a cellphone and not paying attention? I mean, I`m starting to get an attitude! I`m looking into some ways of mounting Sidewinder missles on my bike. Yeah, that`s the ticket...
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