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    Jeez, too many bikes are expensive!!!!

    Jeez, before looking around online to find out more about cycling, I would not have thought it possible that any bikes under $700 or so is kinda cheaps (based on the under $700 & $750 threads). I only have like a $100 to spend on a better bike and are just not sure about getting used bikes. Yeah I'm well aware that there are many threads out there asking for advices on looking for a new bikes but I have seen none of them (even via the search) for under $100 or any with advices on what to watch out for and where to look for an used bikes.

    I really really want a better bike than my Wal-Mart Roadmaster Mt. Fury but with the prices I'm not even sure if $100 can make that much of an improvement or if it would be better for me to just buy better components for my Mt. Fury.

    So hopefully either somebody around here start up a under $100 thread or gives me some advices on avoiding being ripped off and to make sure that I'm picking the right bike.

    Basically I need a road bike that has some tolerance for going over curbs (around where I live, there are many roads that I'm not yet confident (or in shape) enough to get off the sidewalk and ride among the vehicles) and are able to accepts racks and panniers when I have the money for it.

    P.S. since today is sunday, I'll wait till tomorrow or later to call (via www.ip-relay.com) the local cycling group to see if they could have any advices for me or if there is any members with any extra bikes to get rid of.

    P.S.S. My Mt. Fury bike have been serving my purpose as a beginner/cheapie bike but it is starting to mess up now and I'll need another bike anyway so I can ride one while I fix the other. My bike currently have the front deraullier cable loosened so I won't accidently shift it to any bigger gears and get stucks on a higher gears than what I'm used to. My rear wheel are also starting to mess up and whenever I look down at it when I'm riding, it looks pretty wavy. No accidents though (good things since I'm still shopping for a helmet )

    P.S.S.S. I'll post a link to a pic of my bike once I have it uploaded to my site. though the pic is 3072x2304px and a half megabytes for those of you on dail-up.

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    You're not going to find much of a bike for $100, certianly nothing new. My best suggestion is to put away $25 a week for a couple months. What kind of bike are you looking for? Road bike, mountain bike, commuter, etc?

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    Will,
    Go to a LBS (local bike shop) and have them fit you for a bike, that way you can know what size bike you need.
    Look at SS (single speed) bikes, less components means a cheeper and more reliable bike.
    For $100 you are going to have to buy a used bike, even Wallyworld bikes are going for more than that now a days.
    Look through THIS thread from the SS/Fixed forum. It is a listing of E-Bay and Craig's list bikes, it should get you familiar with what to look for.
    I also just noticed you are in CO, still look at single speeds, on the sidewalks you should be ok with only one gear, just make it a granny.

    Oh and I agree with Cuda, save up some. Ride what you have into the ground, and save up some more.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuda2k
    You're not going to find much of a bike for $100, certianly nothing new. My best suggestion is to put away $25 a week for a couple months. What kind of bike are you looking for? Road bike, mountain bike, commuter, etc?
    Umm, the bike that I have are being used as a commuter and I also uses it everywhere when I need to go to the bank, stores, utility offices, and other stuffs like that. I'm currently car-free which is why I have to go everywhere with this. though I'm just starting to ride a little more vehiculary along some of the back and side roads around towns just for the fun of it.

    I'm also hoping to find a bike that would allow me to ride almost upright. I find that I'm most comfortable this way even when I'm struggling uphills and whatnot.

    Also Like I mentioned I will plan to get a bike rack and some panniers if possible in the future so I can transport some more stuffs. I just came from Wal-Mart earlier today on my bike and I had my shoe (just bought a new pair and was trying it out) 2 bags of clothes (needed some more shorts and cool shirts to wear when commuting) strapped to my small backpack already full of some books, a box of food (cookies mix for a potluck), various odds & ends. I also just bought a handlebar bag and it was full with my usual assortment of cheap tools and essiental items for works like belts (uniform requirement), Pocket ampifyer, and other stuffs. As you can see, I'm carrying a whole lot of stuffs (seems like alot for the way I had to strap it on) and had to go over some inclines to get home. If I could get a rack and panniers, the center of gravity would be more easily balanced and set lower.

    In case I have to save up for a better bikes, should I have the rear wheel of my current bike trued at a LBS or just replace it with a cheap wheel? This would defidenly makes it easier to keep riding my current bike much longer but I'm not sure how much that could cost and for the cheap bike, would it be just better for me to get a better wheel for it anyway?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG
    Will,
    Go to a LBS (local bike shop) and have them fit you for a bike, that way you can know what size bike you need.
    Look at SS (single speed) bikes, less components means a cheeper and more reliable bike.
    For $100 you are going to have to buy a used bike, even Wallyworld bikes are going for more than that now a days.
    Look through THIS thread from the SS/Fixed forum. It is a listing of E-Bay and Craig's list bikes, it should get you familiar with what to look for.
    I also just noticed you are in CO, still look at single speeds, on the sidewalks you should be ok with only one gear, just make it a granny.

    Oh and I agree with Cuda, save up some. Ride what you have into the ground, and save up some more.
    Well I uses my rear gears a lot and are kinda leery with the idea of having only 1 gear each. Though I'm completely ok with that for the front gear. Could these single speeds accept a rear wheel with multiple gears? is it possible to have 1 gear in the front and multiples in the back without issues? Just wondering.

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    A used Raleigh Three speed is a good strong commuter. You should be able to find a pretty nice example for $100.00 - $125.00.

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    looking around for a Raleight on the local Craiglist. only found a lady version. But I found this,
    http://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/303389367.html

    Should I contact this person for a test ride or what? Is this bike a good one for me? It looks good to me but I'm a bit obviously inexperienced with brands name and whatnot.

    :EDIT: I've just googled Motobecane and found a review of it that mentioned it being over a thousand doaller. Is this one just a rip-off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill
    Well I uses my rear gears a lot and are kinda leery with the idea of having only 1 gear each. Though I'm completely ok with that for the front gear. Could these single speeds accept a rear wheel with multiple gears? is it possible to have 1 gear in the front and multiples in the back without issues? Just wondering.
    Yes, a single front ring and multiple rear cogs would be no problem.
    jwbnyc is right a Raleigh 3 speed, or its equivalent, is what you are looking for. They have an internal gear hub, which is very reliable. They are also going to have rack mounts if not the rack, as well as fenders, and even maybe a chain case.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill
    looking around for a Raleight on the local Craiglist. only found a lady version. But I found this,
    http://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/303389367.html

    Should I contact this person for a test ride or what? Is this bike a good one for me? It looks good to me but I'm a bit obviously inexperienced with brands name and whatnot.

    :EDIT: I've just googled Motobecane and found a review of it that mentioned it being over a thousand doaller. Is this one just a rip-off?
    Used bikes can be cheep.

    What's your inseam? The stand-over height of that frame is 33 inches. You want the stand-over height to be less than your inseam.

    {edit** there is nothing wrong with a ladies bike, it's just an esthetic thing, it won't effect how you ride it.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG
    Used bikes can be cheep.

    What's your inseam? The stand-over height of that frame is 33 inches. You want the stand-over height to be less than your inseam.
    Umm Inseam? how do I measure it? from the floor to my crotch on the inside? sorry, Like I said I'm pretty inexperienced with this sort of thing and have never really been fitted at all before so I dunno how to find out my fit yet. As soon as I find out, I'll post it here then I'll have to go to sleep.

    P.S. about the ladie bike, it looked pretty worn down and much worse than the one I linked to. so I'm kinda leaving that one alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curiouswill
    Umm Inseam? how do I measure it? from the floor to my crotch on the inside? sorry, Like I said I'm pretty inexperienced with this sort of thing and have never really been fitted at all before so I dunno how to find out my fit yet. As soon as I find out, I'll post it here then I'll have to go to sleep.

    P.S. about the ladie bike, it looked pretty worn down and much worse than the one I linked to. so I'm kinda leaving that one alone.
    Same way as you do for pants, just as you described, floor to crotch on the inside of the leg.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    my best guess seems to be 28 in.

    Just wondering, what is the reason for having the standover height being lower than your inseam? On my bike, the seat is high enough to make me lean the bike when I'm trying to stand from my seat.

    :EDIT: good night y'all, I have to sleep now or I will be getting up late and miss my work.

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    The top bar (the horizontal one that runs from the seat tube to the handlebars), if it's taller than your inseam, and you are not careful, you can rack yourself and would be signing crosseyed.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    The standover height is the height of the top bar
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    oh ok thanks, I'll check the bike out soon hopefully. I'm actually pretty careful about that since I have to watch out for the same thing from my high seat post (still feel too short for some reason though).

    Even if the standover height is a bit high, I still want a better bike than mine and if everything else about the bike feels good, I'll be totally ok with it. I'm just hoping feverently that the bike is still aviable and that I can still test it out and find it to fit me somewhat.

    P.S. yeah I said I was gonna go to sleep. I was just checking some e-mail 1 last time and came back here before closing down the computer.

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    five inches is going to be a huge difference, the bike is going to be too large for you. Look around, you'll find one that fits. Colorado is a biking state, there is one out there that'll fit and be in your budget.
    Quote Originally Posted by unterhausen
    I believe that in this case "solid meh" means "so 'meh' that it could never be anything more than 'meh', and yet also no less than 'meh' -- in a word, exactly 'meh'"

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    You can buy a new derailleur cable for a few dollars and change it in 5 minutes.
    The wobbled rear wheel can be fixed (or trued) by using a cheap spoke wrench. You can use your breaks for trying.
    http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html#tensioning
    Visit a better bike store to buy them: http://www.performancebike.com/infor...s.cfm#colorado

    A cheap very old bike is a bad investment. It's very difficult to find old-style components for it in regular bike shops.

    I would look for a newer used mountain or hybrid bike from the better manufacturers.
    They were $300-500 when new.

    According to your inseam, you need a small size bike.

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    I'll chime in with cuda - if you can ride your existing beater for a while longer, or into the ground, and in the meantime save up bits and bobs while you're looking it can help.

    I bought a tourer 2nd hand for 250 pounds (would be 800 new), it came with racks and panniers and everything. Was in great condition.

    A good 2nd hand bike will do you wonders, it's just a matter of waiting and searching and finding it. There are enough maroons in the US who buy a bike, use them once, and then let them collect dust - surely you'll come across a good deal eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    I'll chime in with cuda - if you can ride your existing beater for a while longer, or into the ground, and in the meantime save up bits and bobs while you're looking it can help.

    I bought a tourer 2nd hand for 250 pounds (would be 800 new), it came with racks and panniers and everything. Was in great condition.

    A good 2nd hand bike will do you wonders, it's just a matter of waiting and searching and finding it. There are enough maroons in the US who buy a bike, use them once, and then let them collect dust - surely you'll come across a good deal eventually.


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    I totally agree with this, and I think your money will go farther. My housemate is a poor college student and she did this with an old Univega. She rides it every day to school and work, and rode from Portland to San Francisco on it this summer after she got some new wheels. I do not believe a newer bike in the $300-500 range would have held up anywhere near as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb
    I totally agree with this, and I think your money will go farther. My housemate is a poor college student and she did this with an old Univega. She rides it every day to school and work, and rode from Portland to San Francisco on it this summer after she got some new wheels. I do not believe a newer bike in the $300-500 range would have held up anywhere near as well.
    It's kind of a game. If you can find a cheap old bike in your size that is hardly ridden, it's your fortune. I mean the frame is not rusted, the wheels, cassette, crankset, brakes are good--they are expensive to change. There can be tear and wear, so expect to change the tires, chain, cables, brake pads--those are relatively inexpensive.

    It's VERY difficult to find an old bike that fits you well on craigslist. It's possible to search on ebay for your size offers in your area to save on shipping (it's usually $50).

    There are many mountain and hybrid bikes on craigslist that are almost new. Though, some of them are from Walmart and Target with no-name components; avoid them.

    Maroons, who buy bikes, use them once, and sell for half-price, for some unexplainable reason buy expensive all-carbon bikes. Even at half price they are not even close to $100.
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    FWIW, my current bike cost almost $400 to put together.

    I was riding a loaner moutain bike while my friend helped me build it out from ebay parts we found. It's got a good steel frame, all shimano 600 components, (not top of the line, but definately reliable) a good set of wheels, and a really comfortable saddle and bar tape. I'm really happy with it. To get an equivelent bike new would have cost me over $1,000.

    If you can make your existing bike work while you save up and find parts OR do a layaway on an inexpensive but still quality (Jamis Explorer maybe? http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebik...eet/index.html ) new bike that comes with a warrenty and the people at the Local Bike Shop who are there to help you, both of those could be really good options as well.

    Also, having a new bike on layaway and having the LBS help you with repairs to your existing one is a great way to start a relationship that can pay off in spades later on.

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    if you only have 100 bux and need something good, go used! You said you wanted a road bike that could go over curbs? Check out http://cosprings.craigslist.org/bik/303263173.html Just added on Monday. Decent bike, add some 26x1.25 slicks (about 35 or 40 dollars for a nice pair at your LBS) and there's your speedy roadie-like bike that can handle curbs without busting the wheels for under $100! Full rigid bikes like this are very adaptable.

    Now, when you buy used, make SURE the bike fits you. Don't say, "well, it almost fits". There are lots of used bikes out there that WILL fit. The most important is standover. Straddle the bike and put your feet flat on the ground. Make sure you have about 1 or 2 inches of clearance between the top tube and your important bits. Most of the other fit can be done with longer stems and seat position.

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    Curiouswill,

    There are 10 speed bikes from the 1970s that could serve your needs very well. Some of these are tucked away in the corner of someone's garage. Check yard sales. Also, check scrap yards for pieces of bikes you can knit together to make the bike you want and stay well within your budget. Once you find a frame you like, you can swap almost any part later when a better option comes along for very little money.

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    More suggestions..."step-through" frames...

    BTW, don't be afraid of a "step-through" frame (which is referred to as a "womens' frame", though it's not really), especially with the loads you are carrying! Believe me, it's a lot easier to get on the bike with a tall load if you don't have to try to lift a leg over it to mount the bike. Step-through frames are easier to find cheap (nobody wants them).

    Do keep in mind even if you find the "garage queen" (a bike that was ridden only a few times and then was hung up, never to be ridden again), it's likely an overhaul will be needed, particularly if it's an older bike--lubes/greases dry out, rubber dries and cracks, plastic breaks, cables rust. Unless you are really skilled and have a reasonable set of tools and lots of time, the LBS is where you will have to go to get the overhaul done--and find replacement parts for your new steed.

    The best kind of "step-through"? Overall, it's probably the mixte frame--often referred to as a French postmen's bike because it has been used by them. This style has, in it's true form, a pair of lateral tubes of rather small size and crossbraces joining them from head tube to rear dropout in place of the top tube. That is the strongest step-through frame, and has a very stable ride (though items designed to attach to top tubes may be fun to mount, such as battery packs). They are also easy to mount when loaded, and weigh less than other step-through styles.

    The next best, IMHO, is the "low step-through" or "U-frame". These are the eaiest of all to mount, but tend to look as if they are really heavy. Some are, but this is not necessarily the case; the Breezer Town bikes (women's) have this type of frame, but are NOT too heavy...but are also priced way above your current budget.

    The conventional "step-through" which uses two down tubes in lieu of the top-and-down-tube setup is the least desirable, but is the most common in the U.S.; they tend to be heavier, not as sturdy, and might not handle as well in use as the other "step-through" designs, at least from my experience.

    Disclaimer: I am female, and spent my childhood riding "step-through" frames...that's what girls were given, and that's what we rode. My first bike as an adult was a double down-tube step through (and a POS like the one you have now), and I have two "step-throughs" now (a U-frame and a mixte), so I am not talking through my feed bag!
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    $100 will get you a nice seat to start with
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