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Old 04-03-07, 03:46 AM   #1
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Newb looking to buy a hybrid, don't know which

Hi,

I'm after a new bike, I've done a bit of research and now really hoping somebody could help...

Usage would be commuting and weekend road/cycle path leisure and fitness.

First off, Scott Sportster P3 caught my eye as I want something that won't be a complete tank on the road and will be happy on light off-road duty. This is about my budget limit, could possibly go a little higher if needs be. Anyway, now I'm thinking I'd like something more biased towards speed on the road. Something like the Scott SUB 20, I think. My question is, would the SUB 20 be okay on gravel cycle tracks, or on light dirt tracks, how much bumpyness could it handle? Also, what alternative models are similar to the Scott SUB 20?

Any experience/advice much appreciated.

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Good choice. It looks like the frame is also designed with the possibility of adding disc brakes. You can find similar from other makers.

Consider whether you need shocks. If you plan to ride a good some on trails, and/or rough terrain, then go for it. If you usage is primarily commuting, on road, and light trails, then suspension may be an unnecessary added expense. In any case make sure they're lockable or else they'll be sucking energy out of you on the road.
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Old 04-03-07, 05:02 AM   #3
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Thanks Nicodemus. Considering shocks, I'm starting to think that the bikes with shocks are going to be a little too much mountain bike and not enough road speed. I was looking for a compromise that would let me go out with my g/f on her road bike and her mtb, but now think it's too much of a compromise and I won't get as much enjoyment from either. As long as I can manage okay on smoothish gravel/dirt cycle paths, she'll have to do the mtb trails on her own...

How about the Trek 7.5 FX compared to the SUB 20? I'm probably getting carried away here, I need to go to a shop and try some of these bikes.

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Are you certain with a username like yours that you aren't secretly lusting for a vintage steel bike, like a Nishiki?



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check out the Specialized Sirrus line, seems to be quite popular with peeps here, me included.
Or Trek's FX range.

And here's some other recent threads of a similar nature you might find helpful...
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Old 04-03-07, 05:54 AM   #6
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Nishiki? Don't know that one, maybe only in US. However, if anyone's got a Grifter for sale I could be swayed! And thanks for the links, Nicodemus.
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It's a Classic & Vintage joke--Kawamura made some excellent bikes, including Nishiki, Centurion, and even as "Kawamura".

If you run a search using the forum's search function to look for Kawamura and restrict the search to the C & V forum, you will see some very nice examples.

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I haven't looked at hybrids in decades so I don't know what's currently being offered by any manufacturers, but I will say that I had a Trek 750 that I bought new in 1995 that was my only bike for 10 years, and it rode fast/smooth/true, required literally no maintenance, and is still in excellent condition. Durable, reliable, everything I imagine one could ask of a hybrid.
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Cyclocross bikes are the new "hybrids" right? Made for rough roads, cantilever brakes, larger tires, but geometry for fast road riding.

I'd look at the Cyclocross offerings from Bianchi that would be in your price range; they have a wide selection of price ranges: http://www.bianchiusa.com/07_cross.html

But remember that if you do get a hybrid compromise, it will be harder for you to keep up with your mate if she's on either a dedicated road bike or MTB, because your hybrid is simply "usable" in both terrain, but does not excel in either.

I'd suggest get a cheaper/used entry level MTB (because it's going to be thrashed anyway), and get a better road bike.
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Having trouble finding much about cyclocross bikes, though I love the idea of this kind of bike. I'm guessing it's kind of specialist and seems a bit pricey for me - www.evanscycles.com (big chain store here in the UK) returns 4 results for a "cyclocross" search, all way out of my price range except for the kids model. Seems the Volpe might be just in my price range, but I can't find any UK shops that stock it...

I take your point about a compromise not keeping up on road or off road, and the longer I consider it I'm going more towards a bike that will be fast on the road. I do have an old MTB I can use, just needs a bit of maintenance first. Thanks to all for the comments.
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check out the Specialized Sirrus line, seems to be quite popular with peeps here, me included.
Or Trek's FX range.

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Can agree about the Sirrus and yet another to look at is the Giant FCR.

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/road/4/
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Have you looked at the Specialized Crosstrail Expert? It has front suspension with lock-out, disc brakes, and 29ers. I can't give advice from experience (I've only test rode it once), but I do have one on order
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Having trouble finding much about cyclocross bikes, though I love the idea of this kind of bike. I'm guessing it's kind of specialist and seems a bit pricey for me - www.evanscycles.com (big chain store here in the UK) returns 4 results for a "cyclocross" search, all way out of my price range except for the kids model. Seems the Volpe might be just in my price range, but I can't find any UK shops that stock it...
Another bike you might want to look at is the run-of-the-mill Kona Jake (not the Major Jake or Jake the Snake). Since Evan's Cycles stocks some of the other Konas, they should be able to get one in for you. Based on their price for the Jake 24, a regular Jake should run you around 600 pounds. I got one myself last week and it's a perfect do-everything bike. I couldn't find the Volpe to test-ride either, but from the looks of things, they're pretty much both in the same ballpark...
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Found the Jake for Ģ650. This seems like the kind of thing I've been looking for, but it is a bit beyond what I was going to spend. Maybe if it was a nicer colour... he he

I think I should get something a little cheaper to get fit on, save my pennies and think about a cyclocross type bike in a year or two, when I can afford something very nice, and when I know how serious I am about cycling and am sure of exactly what I want. I have a better idea what I would like to test ride now, so thanks for all the suggestions everyone.
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I just finished shopping for the same kind of bike to basically do what you intend to do - bike paths, roads, occasional gravel. I narrowed it to the Giant FCR2, the Scott Sub20, and the Konas (from what Kona calls the "asphalt" series - their hybrid) - all about the same price, at least where I live.

The dealer where I live really pushed the Scott on me, but had only a Sub10 in stock. It was a stiff ride but a bike that handled well and had the disc brakes. Unfortunately it was too pricey. He steered me away from the Giant, suggesting it was basically a road bike with flat handlebars, not a hybrid. I did however like the ride and looks.

In the end, I really liked the Kona fs. Its components seem (as far as I, a newbie, can tell) to be higher grade than the Giant's and possibly the Sub20's (I think). It has hydraulic disc brakes, as opposed to the Giant which has the traditional caliper brakes. It also has a lockable front suspension, and the ride is comfortable. It's a bike that seems better suited than the Giant to rougher conditions, though it's not as sleek. So far I am very happy with my kona
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Kona makes good "hybrid" asphalt bikes. Check out the Dew, Dew Deluxe, Dr. Dew, PhD, etc. Dew comes with V-brakes, and the others come with disc brakes (some hydraulic, some mechanical).
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Cannondale Roadwarrior is my suggestion.
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Can agree about the Sirrus and yet another to look at is the Giant FCR.

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-US/bikes/road/4/
As you are in the UK

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-GB/bikes/road/125/

Just spotted it- Sorry.

Evans cycles are in Woking (Not my favourite shop)- They carry a good range of bikes and cover most of the bikes mentioned above.
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I'm very pleased with my Giant Cypress model. I get TONS of compliments on it, too, for some odd reason. Is it the color? Sort of a soft metallic green (nice shade) and silver.
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A friend finally realized that he was committed to riding enough to upgrade out of Wal Mart bikes. He got a Trek 7200 hybrid for just under $400 out the door, and has been really happy with it. It took a while to find the right seat, but now he is in total comfort. I think it is a good entry level bike and deserves a look. bk
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I'm very pleased with my Giant Cypress model. I get TONS of compliments on it, too, for some odd reason. Is it the color? Sort of a soft metallic green (nice shade) and silver.
Giant's really hit the money with their latest colour schemes. seeexy
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