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Old 05-19-07, 04:06 PM   #1
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Can someone make me feel less guilty about using my electric garage door opener?

I'm starting to use my bike to commute and for errand running, groceries etc. I keep my bike in the garage, but I can't take it through my living room because we have a light colored carpet. I keep thinking how great biking is for the our non-dependence on fossil fuels. Yet, everytime I take my bike out, I feel guilty about using the electric garage door opener to get it out. <sigh>

I'm not sure how much electricity that consumes, but it's gotta be a lot. It probably takes a lot of juice to power that thing. Twice!
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Old 05-19-07, 04:23 PM   #2
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Why not just open the door manually, and if you can't with the type of design you've got why not get the door changed if it bothers you?

Then again the amount of energy it's going to use probably pales in comparision to the amount you're saving by not driving everywhere.
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Old 05-19-07, 04:56 PM   #3
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Do you have any realistic estimation about how much energy it takes to use the electric garage door? I wonder if it might be negligible.
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try and put the bike in the back yard or another place that is more acessible when you know your going for a bike ride .. carry it thru the livingroom .? just a thought .
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gee, maybe you should also turn off your computer, TV, cell phone chargers, and all that other unneccessary electrical crap?
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I'm starting to use my bike to commute and for errand running, groceries etc. I keep my bike in the garage, but I can't take it through my living room because we have a light colored carpet. I keep thinking how great biking is for the our non-dependence on fossil fuels. Yet, everytime I take my bike out, I feel guilty about using the electric garage door opener to get it out. <sigh>

I'm not sure how much electricity that consumes, but it's gotta be a lot. It probably takes a lot of juice to power that thing. Twice!

It costs you very, very little, my guess is under a penny everytime you use it, Your TV sets at home, even though they are turned off, use more energy in a day than your garage door opener does in several openings.
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Old 05-19-07, 06:22 PM   #7
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I did try to google it, but didn't come up with any estimates of how much it costs everytime a garage door goes up/down. The best I could come up with was estimates of how much the door to the garage should be insulated because garages are usually cold/hot and that could impact your home internal temperature.

Electric garage doors do serve a purpose up here: Snow and rain days.
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Old 05-19-07, 06:31 PM   #8
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It costs an awful lot less energy than taking the car, so don't worry about it.
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Old 05-19-07, 06:54 PM   #9
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gee, maybe you should also turn off your computer, TV, cell phone chargers, and all that other unneccessary electrical crap?
+1 Go off the net entirely. Shut off your AC, furnace and refrigerator. Don't use lights at night and don't burn a kerosene lamp. A candle would probably be OK. Only eat salted meats and fresh fresh vegetables, that you raise so you don't have to have someone else burn fuel in the delivery.Erect a windmill and solar panels if you really want to use electricity. Don't eat anything that requires packaging. Dig an outhouse so you don't pollute the water system.

If the OP didn't have a number of posts, I would suspect troll.
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Heck, I use the garage door opener just about every time I go outside.
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bugmenot, here's a link on appliance power consumption:
http://www.absak.com/design/powercon.html

According to this links power table, a garage door opener uses 350 watt/hr, so figuring an average time for an opening or closing is 15 seconds, (.004 hr) equals 1.4 watt/hr. At 12 cents a 1000 watt/hr that equates to .02 of a cent. Rest easy there bugmenot.
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Thanks, dynodonn. I thought it'd be more than that.

I may even start packing my remote opener in my pannier! Just kidding.
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Old 05-19-07, 10:28 PM   #13
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Save the .02 cent. Take a piece of plastic of the appropiate width and length and lay it on the floor next to the door. Park your bike on it. When ready to leave-open door roll or carry bike out jump on ride away and ignore the garage door. Unless, of course, you are taking a picture of your bike in which case you will want to leave it down anyway.
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gee, maybe you should also turn off your computer, TV, cell phone chargers, and all that other unneccessary electrical crap?
Exactly. You worry about how much electricty you waste by using your electric garage door open yet you fail to realize how much you are wasting by posting about it on the internet?
If you feel so bad about using the electric garage door opener, just open it manually. Its as simple as that.
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Old 05-19-07, 11:33 PM   #15
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I'm starting to use my bike to commute and for errand running, groceries etc. I keep my bike in the garage, but I can't take it through my living room because we have a light colored carpet. I keep thinking how great biking is for the our non-dependence on fossil fuels. Yet, everytime I take my bike out, I feel guilty about using the electric garage door opener to get it out. <sigh>

I'm not sure how much electricity that consumes, but it's gotta be a lot. It probably takes a lot of juice to power that thing. Twice!
Don't feel badly about it. I enter and exit my house through the garage.
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I'm starting to use my bike to commute and for errand running, groceries etc. I keep my bike in the garage, but I can't take it through my living room because we have a light colored carpet. I keep thinking how great biking is for the our non-dependence on fossil fuels. Yet, everytime I take my bike out, I feel guilty about using the electric garage door opener to get it out. <sigh>

I'm not sure how much electricity that consumes, but it's gotta be a lot. It probably takes a lot of juice to power that thing. Twice!
Get over it and just open the doors... and by all means do it electrically. Because of the nature of our modern world... we have to use some electric power. You are using it now to post on this forum, do you feel bad about that?

Of course not! Nor should you.... but how much power do the bezillions of computers connected to the net each day use?

When it is practical to be green, be green... when it is not... do not be green. I am sure you are conservative in most ways... so you are allowed a little convenience. It is the guys who hop in the car to go to a store around the corner need to flogged... not you. It is also not so much about power, but the amount of Co2 you put in the air... the fact you use a bike helps a lot.
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Old 05-20-07, 12:51 AM   #17
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Maybe you should get ahold of ALGORE and buy some offsetting carbon credits. What will those libs think of next?
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Worrying about the electricity the garage doow uses is just about the silliest thing I've ever heard. I have my remote control readily accessable so as I ride down the driveway I open the door like the batcave, all the while singing the batman theme... "dadadadadadadadadadadadada, batmaaaannnn".

The neighbours think I'm weird, and on some level I think they're right.
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I'm starting to use my bike to commute and for errand running, groceries etc. I keep my bike in the garage, but I can't take it through my living room because we have a light colored carpet. I keep thinking how great biking is for the our non-dependence on fossil fuels. Yet, everytime I take my bike out, I feel guilty about using the electric garage door opener to get it out. <sigh>

I'm not sure how much electricity that consumes, but it's gotta be a lot. It probably takes a lot of juice to power that thing. Twice!
Please tell me you are being a troll. Please.

If you are really serious I suggest moving naked to the forest and building yourself a self-sustaining compound.
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Worrying about the electricity the garage doow uses is just about the silliest thing I've ever heard. I have my remote control readily accessable so as I ride down the driveway I open the door like the batcave, all the while singing the batman theme... "dadadadadadadadadadadadada, batmaaaannnn".

The neighbours think I'm weird, and on some level I think they're right.
And all the while, you're always making sure your remote control's atomic batteries are up to power.
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Install solar panels to power the circuit that the garage door opener is on, as well as one outlet to plug the rechargeable batteries that you'll install in the remote.
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I've got some credits for sale... $100 will buy you a years worth of offsets so you don't have to feel guilty about using your garage door. Just PM me and I'll give you the paypal where you can send your $100!
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Eff all you haters.

Last time I checked this was called "General Cycling Discussion"

Not "Lets Scrutinize Every Post to See if its Not a Troll"

Little paranoid are you?
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Eff all you haters.

Last time I checked this was called "General Cycling Discussion"

Not "Lets Scrutinize Every Post to See if its Not a Troll"

Little paranoid are you?
It's not the I Suffer From Rich American Guilt Forum? This thread must be in the wrong place then.
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U should be more worried about the flush toilet than the garage opener
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