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    the greatest swindle srsly's Avatar
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    have you ever wanted to convince someone NOT to get into cycling?

    this is completely, and utterly a rant about an ex. we don't talk much but we kind of keep in touch through blogs.

    i know, why would any of us ever think that. but she's getting into cycling now and has some very strange notions. i tried to get her into cycling while we were dating but she just wussed out. her newfound interest in cycling came shortly after i purchased my new road bikes for myself and my current lady. coincidence?
    anyhow, she posted about looking at a couple bikes and linked to a bianchi volpe and a jamis satellite. both excellent choices for a newcomer. i thought i'd be nice and offer some advice on bike shopping and a couple other bike suggestions. so i suggested Felt (of course), Le Mond (which my lady has and loves), and the lady Bianchi Eros (Punishmint is a great color). she scoffed at my suggestion saying a friend of hers.... well, allow me to quote:

    That's funny, because my friend said to stay away from LeMond (along with a list of almost every other bike company you've heard of, from trek to cannondale to marin) because they make ****ty bikes that will break.
    i really didn't know what to think of that. i was dumbfounded. i didn't know where to start. to point out that Liquigas just won the Giro on cannondales, or that trek sponsors team discovery and Armstrong rode one to 7 TDF victories. someone should tell Di Luca his bike sucks. yes i know they're paid to ride them, but if a team's equipment sucked i like to think they'd try to find a new sponsor. i'm guessing, since this is seattle, that her friend is a hipster that walks a bianchi pista around capitol hill and thinks he's an authority on bikes because his bike doesn't coast. because nobody that knew anything about bikes would say anything to the effect of "cannondale sucks."
    now, the reason i would say i'd like to convince her not to buy a bike is because she's getting into it for the wrong reasons. she does things because she wants to be better at it than other people, not because she's really into it. she isn't going to take the time to learn about how to take care of it properly. mistreating a bike is like beating a puppy. i've been riding for two years and i obsess about it. i'd like to think i've picked up a few things reading this forum and hanging out at the co-op shop. it just makes me sad that she just dismisses my advice like she knows better.

    i can only hope that if she does go through with it she takes the time to learn how to care for it properly and ends up loving it because riding bikes is fun. not to be better at it than my girlfriend.

    ok, i'm done. had to get it out to some people that would understand. or flame on, it's outta my head now
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    good thing you ain't w/ her no more. sounds like she's easily swayed by idiots. and you're probably right, her friend sounds like a, dare I say it, hipster doofus.

    edit: and to your original question, no, never tried to tell someone not to try cycling. i wouldn't even tell your ex that. u never know what'll happen.
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    Looks to me that she is using what you know about bikes to get to you.

    Trying to tell you that you don't know jack about bikes. Ya know - under the premise that since she met this new friend he knows so much that YOU didn't know that now she feels it's okay to go ahead and "get a bike" - if she does.

    It's just ammunition.

    edit: Oh yeah (after seeing Jyo's post). No, I never tried to stop someone from cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    Looks to me that she is using what you know about bikes to get to you.

    Trying to tell you that you don't know jack about bikes. Ya know - under the premise that since she met this new friend he knows so much that YOU didn't know that now she feels it's okay to go ahead and "get a bike" - if she does.
    correct.

    i don't claim to be an expert either, but i've managed to strip down and clean a bike and i only had to ask the co-op owner once or twice how to put something back on (ok so he had to hold my hand the entire way through wheel dishing and installing the chain )

    but i didn't say anything i'd regret later. i just addressed her friend's remarks with questions to back up his assertion and some more advice. her attitude just gets under my skin sometimes
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    Hey guyz? Guyz? Wait up!! Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
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    Why even let her bother you? You are allowing this. If she gets a bike under bad advice, let her learn. WHO CARES?

    As long as you know what is up, then so what?



    Look I'm sorry if I seem the witch with a "b" - I don't mean to sound callous, but I don't like it when people from the past play games with someones feelings or emotions just for the heck of it.
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    Siu..I wanna see the large version of that pic...it's really cool

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    I agree with Siu. She sounds like a toxic personality...I'd initiate separation sequence asap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dauphin
    Siu..I wanna see the large version of that pic...it's really cool

    No you don't. It shows a water drop in mid drip coming down my chin. VERY unlady like.
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    Why are you even talking to her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siu Blue Wind
    Why even let her bother you? You are allowing this. If she gets a bike under bad advice, let her learn. WHO CARES?

    As long as you know what is up, then so what?



    Look I'm sorry if I seem the witch with a "b" - I don't mean to sound callous, but I don't like it when people from the past play games with someones feelings or emotions just for the heck of it.

    again, correct.

    i know these things but sometimes i can't help it heh.


    (for the record that is certainly not a "witchy" thing to say)
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    i just couldn't take the hating on LeMond.

    PS i'm the current girlfriend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by srsly
    again, correct.

    i know these things but sometimes i can't help it heh.


    (for the record that is certainly not a "witchy" thing to say)

    Apparently, you trying to be her friend in helping her with this bike is not what she wants. Don't expose yourself to this kind of negativity. Why let yourself go through this? What is your gain?

    You have a new friend now and maybe the energy spent on the ex might be better spent on the new one.

    I know it may be hard but try to let it go. Give your friendship and advice to those who will honor it and respect it. You can't go wrong there!
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    she's obviously not suited for road riding. tell her to get a mountain bike, something in a Huffy, Jeep make fantastic bikes too. Hummer - now that's a good one, EVERYONE downhills on a Hummer.
    That's a lie.

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    Just be nicely honest: those are spendy bikes and not really worth the money unless you plan to ride it regularly and long term. If you're not sure, here's some suggestions of good, less expensive bikes that really are only less impressive in terms of X, Y, Z (weight, drivetrain, etc).

    After that, it's her money. Hopefully she's not an enemy now, but at best she's back to being a casual friend. Don't invest too much of yourself in her.

    Be careful not to jump to conclusions about her motivations. I'm sure you know her better than us, but it's possible for subtle prejudices to seep into your mind. That was kind of the vibe I got from your response to her friend's advice on the Lemond. That judgment came from the friend, not her.
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    I'd go ahead and kindly recommend buying one of them Denali bikes from K-mart, eating tripe taco roadside in TJ, and posting SSN on craigslist...
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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb
    Why are you even talking to her?
    +100

    That's your problem kiddo. If her behaviour is indicative of ulterior motives or simple bad thinking and negativity, your continued contact only feeds her. Maybe something in you gets a kick out of it, I dunno.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Funkychicken
    ...Jeep make fantastic bikes too. Hummer - now that's a good one, EVERYONE downhills on a Hummer.
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    Did you just say "minarchist?" I'm going to start a 10-page vaginathon because only Libertarians can define Libertarianism. Also, you're mean.

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    you guys are awesome.

    this is the second time i've tried to help her and she's just dismissed my advice. but her friend sent me a note explaining his assertions and while informed are still heavily biased for personal prejudice ("mirage is the halfway point between 105 and dura-ace" ?!?!). i was just concerned that she was taking advice from some hipster doofus that didn't know wtf he was talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus
    Maybe something in you gets a kick out of it, I dunno.
    correct.
    she's had this superiority complex for as long as i've known her and it's only gotten worse. so sometimes i just take a little pleasure in knowing something she doesn't horrible i know, but i'm not perfect either.
    Last edited by srsly; 06-06-07 at 08:41 AM.
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    Let her choke on her own stupidity.

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    Srsly, NO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb
    Why are you even talking to her?
    +1

    But as long as you are, just let her know about this little hidden gem:

    GMC Denali!

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    Seriously, just tell her to get a track bike. The steeper the angle the better, more bar-saddle drop, top-tube protector, etc.

    She'll abandon the bike in a few weeks, like most people do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jyossarian
    good thing you ain't w/ her no more. sounds like she's easily swayed by idiots. and you're probably right, her friend sounds like a, dare I say it, hipster doofus.
    Quote Originally Posted by donnamb
    Why are you even talking to her?
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    generally, I think its better to move on and don't look back. I'd just hope she never mets up to me in a race

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    Convince her to buy the most expensive bike she can, and tons of accessories. Everyone wins. Bike shop that gets the business, and people who can buy it "used' for cheap couple months later.
    Quote Originally Posted by srsly
    this is completely, and utterly a rant about an ex. we don't talk much but we kind of keep in touch through blogs.

    i know, why would any of us ever think that. but she's getting into cycling now and has some very strange notions. i tried to get her into cycling while we were dating but she just wussed out. her newfound interest in cycling came shortly after i purchased my new road bikes for myself and my current lady. coincidence?
    anyhow, she posted about looking at a couple bikes and linked to a bianchi volpe and a jamis satellite. both excellent choices for a newcomer. i thought i'd be nice and offer some advice on bike shopping and a couple other bike suggestions. so i suggested Felt (of course), Le Mond (which my lady has and loves), and the lady Bianchi Eros (Punishmint is a great color). she scoffed at my suggestion saying a friend of hers.... well, allow me to quote:



    i really didn't know what to think of that. i was dumbfounded. i didn't know where to start. to point out that Liquigas just won the Giro on cannondales, or that trek sponsors team discovery and Armstrong rode one to 7 TDF victories. someone should tell Di Luca his bike sucks. yes i know they're paid to ride them, but if a team's equipment sucked i like to think they'd try to find a new sponsor. i'm guessing, since this is seattle, that her friend is a hipster that walks a bianchi pista around capitol hill and thinks he's an authority on bikes because his bike doesn't coast. because nobody that knew anything about bikes would say anything to the effect of "cannondale sucks."
    now, the reason i would say i'd like to convince her not to buy a bike is because she's getting into it for the wrong reasons. she does things because she wants to be better at it than other people, not because she's really into it. she isn't going to take the time to learn about how to take care of it properly. mistreating a bike is like beating a puppy. i've been riding for two years and i obsess about it. i'd like to think i've picked up a few things reading this forum and hanging out at the co-op shop. it just makes me sad that she just dismisses my advice like she knows better.

    i can only hope that if she does go through with it she takes the time to learn how to care for it properly and ends up loving it because riding bikes is fun. not to be better at it than my girlfriend.

    ok, i'm done. had to get it out to some people that would understand. or flame on, it's outta my head now
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