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sknhgy 06-08-07 06:19 PM

Best way to haul a 5 year old?
 
My grandson is coming for a visit. I wish I could take him for a bike ride. Do 5 year olds fit in those walmart child seats?
Anyone have any suggestions? I wish he could go along with me. BTW, I do a lot of gravel road riding with little or no car traffic.

Sprocket Man 06-08-07 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sknhgy
My grandson is coming for a visit. I wish I could take him for a bike ride. Do 5 year olds fit in those walmart child seats?
Anyone have any suggestions? I wish he could go along with me. BTW, I do a lot of gravel road riding with little or no car traffic.

Everytime I see someone toting a little one on those bicycle child seats, it makes me a little nervous, even if the child is wearing a helmet. If you were to fall, it's a long way down and the child's head (and other body parts) could hit the ground pretty hard. How about a trailer?

DataJunkie 06-08-07 07:18 PM

Child seats are rated for kids around 30 lbs. So, no.

You may be able to fit him in a trailer. Some kids will fit. Some will not.
My son is turning 4 and is a tall kid. Consequently, he will be outgrowing the trailer soon.
The next step for us is a trail-a-bike.
Later a tandem with a child stoker kit for longer fun rides.

Last weekend at an organized cycling event I noticed a father and son on a tandem. The kid was around 10ish (I think). Anyhow, I hope that is us one day.

Cyclaholic 06-08-07 07:22 PM

Trail-a-bike or tandem with child stoker kit.

chephy 06-08-07 07:58 PM

5 years old?! He should be pedalling right alongside ya! :D

apclassic9 06-08-07 09:35 PM

Get him his own bike, and teach him how to ride... go for a ride with him, even if he has training wheels. They make big ones for unpaved travel.

Sledbikes 06-08-07 10:03 PM

bungee cords

Cyclaholic 06-09-07 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sledbikes
bungee cords

Gaffa tape?

mike 06-09-07 07:41 AM

I like the suggestion that previus posters gave you to have him ride his bike beside you. The cost of a kids bike will be about the same as any hardware you will get for mounting seats, tag-along gear, etc.

In some developing countries, I have seen folks make seats that they strap to the rear carrier and the kids sit on those. Somehow, the kids manage to keep their feet out of the spokes.

When my boy was about six, He would ride on my rear carrier onto which I put a special big foamy saddle. I brought him to school every day like that - with his legs out to the side.

Then, a couple of years ago, I was having a wonderful time with my nephew. He sat on the rear carrier of an OLD balloon tire bike. We road to the top of the hill near my house and then we would fly down the hill screaming and laughing. That was a lot of fun until just as we were pulling into the driveway after our last run, his foot got caught between the tire and the fender. OOOOOh, that was a bad scream. The end to the fun time, for sure.

So, I guess one recommendation is that no matter what you chose, make sure that the kid's feet can't get near the wheel.

sknhgy 06-09-07 08:12 AM

I think I'll find him a bike and teach him to ride.

Brusheda 06-09-07 08:28 AM

Teaching a kid to ride is one of the most satisfying things you can do. Be sure you are patient and encouraging. We don't want him associating riding with a frustrated grandparent!

DataJunkie 06-09-07 10:57 AM

5 and no bike? Shame on his parents. :p
My kid has a xmart bike with training wheels and a red radio flyer tricycle. He has been pedaling since before he was 2. Well.... before two he was flintstoning it. Little bugger gets faster each day. Going to need to work on removing the training wheels before long.

sknhgy 06-09-07 04:50 PM

Any suggestions on what kind of bike to get him? Other than it will most likely be a used one.

Blue Order 06-09-07 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sknhgy
Any suggestions on what kind of bike to get him? Other than it will most likely be a used one.

Look on eBay under cycling. Enter Trek as a search term, and when you get the gazillion Trek entires, go to the category "kid's bikes"

For example, there's this 12" Trek on there now that's perfect for learning to ride...

By the way, I learned when I was around that age, first with training wheels, then without. My parents took the training wheels off, walked behind me helping me balance, and kept saying "good, good," but the funny thing was, at some point their voices were too far behind me. I looked back, and they were about 20 feet back-- I had been balancing without them after they let go....

Blue Order 06-09-07 05:15 PM

Radio Flyer's are really cute little bikes...

Here's one on eBay now....

Here's another one for the same price...

Both new.

Tapeworm21 06-09-07 09:26 PM

http://www.performancebike.com/produ...6-NCL-SIDE.jpg
It's called the Mongoose Alleycat. I think they run for about $120 or so. Pretty safe as well.

apclassic9 06-10-07 09:02 AM

Cheap xmart bikes are fine for beginner kids - the kid will outgrow his bike before he breaks it, anyway! When he starts hucking, THEN look at kids bikes at the LBS.

seriouslysilly 06-12-07 10:28 AM

i wouldn't recommend a skateboard and rope.

Stacey 06-12-07 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Order
Look on eBay under cycling. Enter Trek as a search term, and when you get the gazillion Trek entires, go to the category "kid's bikes"

For example, there's this 12" Trek on there now that's perfect for learning to ride...

By the way, I learned when I was around that age, first with training wheels, then without. My parents took the training wheels off, walked behind me helping me balance, and kept saying "good, good," but the funny thing was, at some point their voices were too far behind me. I looked back, and they were about 20 feet back-- I had been balancing without them after they let go....


Bullocks!

Go to the thrift shop find a fixer upper, let the kid learn to wrench too.

stokessd 06-12-07 11:04 AM

I saw a trendy looking wooden bike with no peddles in some catalog we get (we get a mountain of them). The idea was that the kid sits on it and pushes it like a scooter to develop the sense of balance. It's sort of an alternative to training wheels. When the balance is good, then transistion to another bike with peddles.

It was pretty spendy, and I thought the easy thing to do with be to buy a bike that fits and just pull the chain and cranks. Then add them later.

I'm not sure if it works well for teaching a kid to ride, but I bet it would.


Sheldon

Sheldon Brown 06-12-07 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stokessd
I saw a trendy looking wooden bike with no peddles in some catalog we get (we get a mountain of them). The idea was that the kid sits on it and pushes it like a scooter to develop the sense of balance. It's sort of an alternative to training wheels. When the balance is good, then transistion to another bike with peddles.

It was pretty spendy, and I thought the easy thing to do with be to buy a bike that fits and just pull the chain and cranks. Then add them later.

Yes, those things are pretty silly and 'spensive. Why not just get one of those cheap folding scooters?

No need to remove the chain or cranks, just unscrew the pedals, but this only works well if the bike has at least one hand brake, which most little kids' bikes in the U.S. don't have :-(

I have an article on Teaching Kids to Ride that you might find useful:

http://sheldonbrown.com/teachride

Sheldon "Back On A Tricycle" Brown

Blue Order 06-12-07 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
I have an article on Teaching Kids to Ride that you might find useful:

http://sheldonbrown.com/teachride

Sheldon "Back On A Tricycle" Brown

Ah, now I used to have a LOT of fun riding my tricycle when I was way too big for it, racing it to just this side of its tipping point....


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