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slyjackson 06-12-07 09:25 AM

Another Pedal info request for the forum
 
My bike came with the "Wellgo LU-962" pedals that has toe clips
and straps. These straps and toe clips seem to be a pain for me
at present, especially if I take my foot out to stop at a traffic light.

It's such a pain to get my foot back in when I start rolling.
I have been told to get the "clipless pedals". These would not only
make it easier to “get in” and “out” of, but would also help me feel
the bike better and distribute more of my pedal effort to where
it should be.

I have been recommended these to consider.

1. Crank Brothers “Eggbeaters”
2. Crank Brothers Quattro SL Road
3. Crank Brothers Candy C pedal.
4. LOOK Keo Sprint Road
5. LOOK PP357 Road

Being a rookie in biking, I’m really not sure which one of these road pedals
would be the best application for me. I did some web reviews on some of
the pedals listed above, but I was not able to make a judgment call on the
“Pro’s” and “Cons’ of these pedals since most of the comments were from riders
that race a lot or have been riding for years. I'm not in any of these categories
yet so some of their con's may not be applicable to me. I just need some easy “in”
and “out” pedals that provide the transfer of effort and no “Headaches” .

Thanks to all in advance for your replies.:)

geo8rge 06-12-07 09:35 AM

See if you can install the strap diagonally like power grips. Rear inside corner to forward outside corner of a rectangular pedal.

Woodlark 06-12-07 02:33 PM

Any of the Crank Bros. pedals would be a good choice. The Look road pedals are also said to be good, but not if you want to be able to walk comfortably in your cycling shoes as the cleats protrude.

ragboy 06-12-07 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyjackson
My bike came with the "Wellgo LU-962" pedals that has toe clips
and straps. These straps and toe clips seem to be a pain for me
at present, especially if I take my foot out to stop at a traffic light.

It's such a pain to get my foot back in when I start rolling.
I have been told to get the "clipless pedals". These would not only
make it easier to “get in” and “out” of, but would also help me feel
the bike better and distribute more of my pedal effort to where
it should be.

I have been recommended these to consider.

1. Crank Brothers “Eggbeaters”
2. Crank Brothers Quattro SL Road
3. Crank Brothers Candy C pedal.
4. LOOK Keo Sprint Road
5. LOOK PP357 Road

Being a rookie in biking, I’m really not sure which one of these road pedals
would be the best application for me. I did some web reviews on some of
the pedals listed above, but I was not able to make a judgment call on the
“Pro’s” and “Cons’ of these pedals since most of the comments were from riders
that race a lot or have been riding for years. I'm not in any of these categories
yet so some of their con's may not be applicable to me. I just need some easy “in”
and “out” pedals that provide the transfer of effort and no “Headaches” .

Thanks to all in advance for your replies.:)

what's your budget?

slyjackson 06-12-07 03:39 PM

Well Guys, I settled for the crank brothers "Quattro". I like the spring mechanics of the pedal and after looking at some clipless pedals that look like something the "BORG" created , I went with Quattro because of the release and the pedal platform. I started to get the Crank Brothers "Candies", but yellow pedals is not in my taste, not that there is anything wrong with having yellow color pedals, it’s just not on my favorite colors list. The “Egg Beater” was an option, but that is basically what I have with the Quattro except there is foot surface for my foot around the mechanics.

So we will see later how they work if I can get them set up correctly. Not too sure about the adjustment thing. The instructions are not that informative but I will figure it out. I will let you guys know how many times I fall on my a$$ before I got it in my thick skull on how to release my foot from the pedal.

dobber 06-12-07 04:26 PM

Aren't the Quattros a road specific pedal, one where the cleat extends out beyond the sole?

Problem here is that the walking around is gonna suck.

You can get the Candy pedals in several different colors. There is a new entry in the Crank Bros line called the Smarty

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/ebi...ems/004-PD8527

For commuting I really prefer the Crank Bros Mallet.

slyjackson 06-12-07 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dobber
Aren't the Quattros a road specific pedal, one where the cleat extends out beyond the sole?

Problem here is that the walking around is gonna suck.

You can get the Candy pedals in several different colors. There is a new entry in the Crank Bros line called the Smarty

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/ebi...ems/004-PD8527

For commuting I really prefer the Crank Bros Mallet.

Well I was told that I could remove the cleat from the include plateform that extends out and just screw it into the shoe. I don't know until I get home and try it, but it seems like its possible.The piece that you are refering too sits insited the pedal, I'm not really sure of the function it. But If I remove the actual cleat and screw it on the shoe, the setup is simular to the candy. This is what I was told,I'll let you know later after the install.

slyjackson 06-13-07 06:56 AM

I guess I'm going to need a lot of practice getting "in" these Quattros. I don't seem to have a problem getting out though. Hell, at this point I do not know if I have helped my situation are made it worse. At present, I think I was better off "flipping pedals" to slip my foot into the toes clips rather than trying to find the "Sweet Spot" to lock in...

gear 06-13-07 07:09 AM

Its' ironic isn't it, one mention of clipless pedals and the non user always mentions their fear of not being able to unclip from them.

Psydotek 06-13-07 07:14 AM

You'll get used to it soon enough. :)

I would have recommended the plain eggbeaters for the easiest entry. Both the eggbeaters and quattros are about equal in terms of exit though. There's no adjustment to worry about though other than tweaking your cleat position. They're great pedals though, i've got both (quattros on my roadbike, eggbeaters on my commuter/CX bike).

Falkon 06-13-07 07:49 AM

The eggbeaters are nice. For serious road pedals, I love my speedplays. I think I might have worn out my Candle SLs from riding on my fixed gear with them.

slyjackson 06-13-07 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gear
Its' ironic isn't it, one mention of clipless pedals and the non user always mentions their fear of not being able to unclip from them.

My post was based on me needing practice "Clipping in" not clipping out. Read and comprehend correctly please...

slyjackson 06-13-07 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astaroth
Speedplay.

I guess that is the way to go, If I can't get my act together in "Locking in" under control, I will just have to put the quattros back in the box, sell em and try the Speedplays...

Nightshade 06-13-07 10:18 AM

Nashbar has some very friendly/ adjustable pedals that
are good for al'round use.

Power Grips Pedal Set
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tform%20Pedals

-or-

Nashbar Land Cruiser Pedal (I have these and like them a lot)
http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...tform%20Pedals

operator 06-13-07 12:48 PM

You'll probably end up getting two sets of shoes/pedals. There's no way i'm commuting in anything but MTB clipless. The ability to walkaround really is awesome BUT - for long road rides nothing comes close to the power of Looks.

slyjackson 06-13-07 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by operator
You'll probably end up getting two sets of shoes/pedals. for long road rides nothing comes close to the power of Looks.

Which model would you recommend ? LOOK PP357 Road , LOOK Keo Sprint Road or another. I'm gonna give these Quattro's a try for a month. I ride daily so if my "goofy" factor is not under control by then, I will start looking for something more "Locking In" friendly. But more than likely as "Psydotek" has posted, I will get use to them over time. Thanks for the info everyone...:)

slyjackson 06-17-07 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyjackson
Which model would you recommend ? LOOK PP357 Road , LOOK Keo Sprint Road or another. I'm gonna give these Quattro's a try for a month. I ride daily so if my "goofy" factor is not under control by then, I will start looking for something more "Locking In" friendly. But more than likely as "Psydotek" has posted, I will get use to them over time. Thanks for the info everyone...:)

Just for the records, I'm locking in and out of the "Quattro's" like a pro now. I have two traffic lights that I sometime need to stop at. Doing so use to bring fear because I knew I would have to un-lock one foot (right)at the red light and then "Lock back" in on the green during take off. The struggle of "Locking In" was a issue at times. Sometimes I could do it Blind folded and then sometimes I just could not find the "Sweet Spot".

Well I've got it down now, No fear in locking in anymore. As a matter of fact I look forward to it. I'm locking in now with out hardly looking at my foot placement. It took every bit of 4 days to feel the "Quattros" Locking-in sweet spot, whereas I'm comfortable using them as they should be.:D

ClydeRider 06-18-07 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyjackson
Just for the records, I'm locking in and out of the "Quattro's" like a pro now. I have two traffic lights that I sometime need to stop at. Doing so use to bring fear because I knew I would have to un-lock one foot (right)at the red light and then "Lock back" in on the green during take off. The struggle of "Locking In" was a issue at times. Sometimes I could do it Blind folded and then sometimes I just could not find the "Sweet Spot".

Well I've got it down now, No fear in locking in anymore. As a matter of fact I look forward to it. I'm locking in now with out hardly looking at my foot placement. It took every bit of 4 days to feel the "Quattros" Locking-in sweet spot, whereas I'm comfortable using them as they should be.:D


SlyJackson,

Would you mind sharing your secret of the Quattros? I have them and am having a heck of a time getting clipped in and out of the things. I fell on my butt Saturday because I couldn't get un-clipped after an emergency stop. So far I have not been very pleased with the pedals. I'd appreciate any tips you can give. I'm seriously thinking about checking out the Look pedals.

slyjackson 06-19-07 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClydeRider
SlyJackson,

Would you mind sharing your secret of the Quattros? I have them and am having a heck of a time getting clipped in and out of the things. I fell on my butt Saturday because I couldn't get un-clipped after an emergency stop. So far I have not been very pleased with the pedals. I'd appreciate any tips you can give. I'm seriously thinking about checking out the Look pedals.

Well, I guess the first thing that I did was angle my shoe cleat so that when I wanted to release, it would without having to twist my foot out too much. Remember the fact of which cleat combination you use (example: left cleat on right shoe or left cleat on left shoe) determines a 20 degree release or a 15 degree release. I have mine set up for the 15 degree release, and the way I have the cleat angled on my shoe, I may have reduced that 4 or 3 more degrees to a possible 11 or 12 degree release. All I have to do now is twist my foot away from the bike slightly and I'm un-locked. I think you just need to play around with the way your cleats are mounted on your shoe and try to angle it so it releases without twisting your foot too much outward. This is what I did to solve the problem I had whereas I needed to twist my foot which seems to be almost 45 degrees to release. It may not have been that much, but it felt like it was that much.

As for as locking in, due to the way my shoe strap is placed, at a traffic light all I have to do is line my pedal crank arm so that it is pointing down at about 4 o’clock. (The one that I have un-locked from) At take off, I then line my shoe strap up with the crank arm and I hit the "sweet spot" every time. You could also try making a mark on your crank arm and your shoe so you can gauge how far forward or aft your foot needs to be to find the "sweet spot" to lock in. A friend suggest putting a piece of tape on the side of your shoe (crank arm side) that lines up with your crank arm. This will also help you learn the placement of your foot. After a while of doing either suggestions, the ability to "lock-in" at will, would not require a second thought. This is just my way of doing it. I'm sure there are other approaches to this. Hopefully others out there will chime in to add more info. Keep me posted on how things work out for you.

Hope this helps.

ClydeRider 06-24-07 11:01 AM

SlyJackson,

I tried several more times with the Crank Brothers Quattros and never did get to the point were I was clipping in and out easily. Another fall because I couldn't get un-clipped forced me to look at alternatives. I invested in Look Keo Classics and love them. Super easy to get in and out of.

Wish the Crank Brothers would have worked but, oh well, live and learn. Guess they will be destined for eBay.

Thanks again for the advice.

Take care.


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