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Old 06-17-07, 10:58 PM   #1
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Kool -Aid vs Gatorade

I normally have a stocked supply of gatorade in my pantry. When I spot a sale I grab them by the case. The other day after a 12 mile long training run in 90 degree heat I was thirsty for gatorade after my run. I had none so I grabed a grape Kool-Aid envelope, 3/4 cups sugar, and 1/4 teaspoon salt in a two quart glass pither with water and ice. It tasted similar to my favorite gatorade flavor Fierce Grape I chugged the entire pither glass by glass...

I don't have a gatorade bottle to compare sugar and sodium amounts gatorade also has electrolites?
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Old 06-18-07, 05:19 AM   #3
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Gatorade provides electrolytes and potassium.
Kool-aid provides empty calories.
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There are several homemade gatorade drink recipes around - many use kool aide or other flavoring and add salt and potassium.
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adding some salt to kool-aid is not a bad idea - the salt is more important for most folks than potassium. That said, do a little research - check out those recipes listed above.
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Yup, I always make my own with Recipe #1 from here.
The nutritional and electrolyte breakdown is very similar to Gatorade, with the exception of more potassium.
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Yup, I always make my own with Recipe #1 from here.
The nutritional and electrolyte breakdown is very similar to Gatorade, with the exception of more potassium.
What's the potassium source in that recipe? Does it come from the Coolade mix?

10 tbs. sugar (5/8 cups or 120 grams) (Sucrose)
.75 tsp Morton Lite salt (4.2 grams) (Sodium chloride)
1 package of unsweetened Coolade mix for flavor (?)
Water to make 2 liters (H2O)
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I think Gu2O is a better alternative to both of those products. One jug is 17 bucks, and it's enough for about 560 oz.
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thats exactly what i was thinking when i read that question
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Haha Wawa makes an electrolyte drink now.
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Get a container of each and compare the ingredients. I did this years ago and found Gatorade and Kool-Aid were pretty close to the same thing, close enough for my purposes anyway, and, partly because it doesn't have that "sports drink" stigma attached to it, Kool-Aid is cheaper.
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I am kinda odd. I regularly drink koolaid without the sugar, I like the sour taste ao the stuff is pretty much water with some vit C content. Water is good enough for me I'm a humble comuter flavored water is probably all I need.
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What's the potassium source in that recipe? Does it come from the Coolade mix?

10 tbs. sugar (5/8 cups or 120 grams) (Sucrose)
.75 tsp Morton Lite salt (4.2 grams) (Sodium chloride)
1 package of unsweetened Coolade mix for flavor (?)
Water to make 2 liters (H2O)
The potassium comes from the Morton Lite salt, which is a mix of sodium chloride (table salt) and potassium chloride ("k salt").
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Get a container of each and compare the ingredients. I did this years ago and found Gatorade and Kool-Aid were pretty close to the same thing, close enough for my purposes anyway, and, partly because it doesn't have that "sports drink" stigma attached to it, Kool-Aid is cheaper.
Is it cheaper than powdered gatorade that you mix up yourself? That's pretty cheap. The can I have now has a $7.35 sticker on it & it makes about 90 8oz servings (full strength; I usually cut it almost in half for use while riding).
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Problem with Gatorade is that it has too few calories and electrolytes for the water-volume. Back when I was using it, I would get powdered Gatorade and mix it at 2x concentration in order to get the required 250cal/hr in 500ml of water. Even then, the electrolyte mix was still insufficient. You sweat away a significant amount of sodium, around 400-800mg/hr and you want to be taking it in at roughly the same amount.

Yeah, my solution was to add a 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1/8th teaspoon of NoSalt for potassium. The reason you need so much more sodium is that it's external to the cells and is sweated away easily. Potassium and magnesium exists primarily inside the cells and aren't lost in as large amounts.

Problem with the Gatorade was that the sugar was too concentrated in the required amounts and this slows down gastric emptying. Mixing my own drinks using maltodextrin turned out to be much better; the stuff is nowhere nearly as sweet as sugar. I use some concentrated orange or lime/lemon juice for flavoring.
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A lot of fruit punch pouches don't use sugar, but artificial crap. I personally use Gatorade, or consider NUUN tablets.
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The potassium comes from the Morton Lite salt, which is a mix of sodium chloride (table salt) and potassium chloride ("k salt").
Oh. Thanks. I wonder if sea salt would be even better what with all the other trace minerals in it (including potassium).
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Yeah, my solution was to add a 1/2 teaspoon of salt and 1/8th teaspoon of NoSalt for potassium. The reason you need so much more sodium is that it's external to the cells and is sweated away easily. Potassium and magnesium exists primarily inside the cells and aren't lost in as large amounts.
I thought that electrolytes could only form when consuming a specific ratio of sugar to salt. Maybe I don't understand everything you said.
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I thought that electrolytes could only form when consuming a specific ratio of sugar to salt. Maybe I don't understand everything you said.

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