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    Get off the damn phone and drive!!!

    Ok I know thie subject has been beat into the ground, but I'm going to beat this horse one more time 'cause the damn thing will just not die.

    Is it me or do drivers who use cell phones and drive at the same time lose almost all ability to drive sensably? I'm not talking the hands free phone users, I'm talking about the idiots who still have the cell phone up to theri ears while they are trying to drive.

    I have almost been hit several times, both while driving my own vehicle and while riding my bike.

    Iowa is supposed to be limiting in car cell phone use to the hands free method. But its a long way off.

    For those that live in states that have already passed laws on cell phone use in vehicles how enforcable are they? Can the police pull you over if they see you with the phone up to your ear? Or does there have to be some other reason for you to be pulled over first? Speeding, not wearing your seat belt, etc?

    Anymore now I make a huge nuisance of myself to drivers who are talking on cell phones with the phone up to their ears. If I am driving I either yell really loud to them to get off the phone and drive, or honk my horn at them, or if I pull up next to them at a stop I crank up the volume of my stereo really loud.

    I know some of you may be saying what good does it do me if they have thier window up while on the phone. Well you'd be surprised at how many people talk on the phone with their windows down. For those that do have them up I just use my horn.

    There have been several people that I actually got to hang up before they were done talking to the person on the other end because I was such a distraction to them.

    Anyone else take matters into their own hands when it comes to idiot drivers that talk on the phone while they are trying to drive?

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    In my opinion, it's not wether person holds the phone, or has it attached to the ear, it's the disctraction from concentrating on the road...
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    Agreed- there's just no concentration, and they are sloppy drivers when distracted by phone calls.

    I absolutely hate the 4 way intersections, when it's their turn, but they're hesitating before going, and I can't tell if they're just urging me to go ahead and take their turn or if they're just sitting there talking on their phones! It gets frustrating sometimes. It gets to the point when even if I can't see directly into their cars, I can 90% of the time tell who's talking on a cell phone.

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    I live in Nassau County, NY. There is a law here stating that the use of a handeld phone while drving is against the law. It was a waste, knowbody listens at all. The cops dont care. It is ********, There is nothing worse than an 86 year old woman, on the phone, 2 inches from the steering wheel swirving in the middle of the interstate, i counted 3 today.

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    Originally posted by N_C
    Is it me or do drivers who use cell phones and drive at the same time lose almost all ability to drive sensably? I'm not talking the hands free phone users, I'm talking about the idiots who still have the cell phone up to theri ears while they are trying to drive.
    Hands free phone users are just as bad.

    Originally posted by N_C
    For those that live in states that have already passed laws on cell phone use in vehicles how enforcable are they? Can the police pull you over if they see you with the phone up to your ear? Or does there have to be some other reason for you to be pulled over first? Speeding, not wearing your seat belt, etc?
    I imagine they're just as enforceable as any other law around here, however, nobody enforces laws about speeding or red light running around here either, so they tend to ignore that one, too.

    Originally posted by N_C
    Anyone else take matters into their own hands when it comes to idiot drivers that talk on the phone while they are trying to drive?
    Not a good idea on the bike, best just to ignore them. In any case, you could set fire to the backsides of most phone users around here, and all they'd do is ask the person on the other end where the smoke was coming from.
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    Following tests that showed using a mobile phone slowed your reaction time to considerably longer than that of a drunk driver, the UK Government have finally made it a specific offense to drive whilst using a mobile, despite hands free set usage also slowing your reaction time time down they're not stoppong there usage though...
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    Originally posted by N_C
    I'm not talking the hands free phone users, I'm talking about the idiots who still have the cell phone up to theri ears while they are trying to drive.
    Well I'm talking about all of them. It's very dangerous, and has caused countless deaths and injuries. Moreover, the consequenses are much worse for those of us on bikes.

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    It seems that people who are too distracted to use a phone and drive at the same time are just to distracted . . .

    read this report:

    http://www.cellular-news.com/story/9191.shtml

    crap drivers are crap drivers. and crap drivers with a phone to their ear are even worse!

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    I talk and drive, at times. I do try to avoid making calls while in motion, but I will take one -- since my cell is my work phone. Anyway, I think I'm doing a pretty good job of it. I'm not PERFECT, by any means, but I know when I'm having an "off" day. If I feel that way, I will pull over and return a call. I drive a stick, too, so that adds a little complication to the matter.

    For the most part, though, I agree that if it's legal to talk and drive, it should be hands-free.

    Just my $.02,

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    Originally posted by BikerDawg
    For the most part, though, I agree that if it's legal to talk and drive, it should be hands-free.

    Just my $.02,

    Michelle
    You are then disputing all the studies that have shown no difference between the impairment (about that of a legally drunk driver) of hands-free vs. hand-held cell phone usage.

    Perhaps you'll get away without injuring or killing anyone for the rest of your life. However, consider the consequences of you do not. Please take the responsible path, and pull over EVERY time you want to take or initialte a call whilst driving.

    I, for one, don't want to have to face the family of the dead afterwards. It's simply not worth it.

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    Originally posted by stewartp
    It seems that people who are too distracted to use a phone and drive at the same time are just to distracted . . .

    read this report:

    http://www.cellular-news.com/story/9191.shtml
    I am of the mind that today's drivers are on average underskilled to operate a motor vehicle. They are by and large improperly prepared to handle task management and prioritisation. I believe the solution is better screening and training rather than simply banning things willy-nilly which in my eyes is simply trying to maintain the status quo by keeping the bar low. They should put distraction tolerance training and crisis management into driver's ed. They've done similar things in pilot training for the longest time.
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    Unfortunately we live in a country where conveinience rules above all else. Those chit chatters on the phone while driving will be allowed to continue just that until enough peole are killed. I hate it as much as anybody and I will go out of my way to cause a delay for some phone yaking dolt on the road. I will also make subtle maneuvers to spook them and let them know they need to pay attention.
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    At $1.50 a minute? I ain't hanging up until my call is over.
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    At $1.50/min I'd never place or recieve a call!
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    Hold the phone! I said I DO try to get off the road when I make a call, and if I'm on a highway, I won't pull over to take one. I think saying ALL cell phone users are bad drivers is wrong; however, you are entitled to your own $.02.

    That being said, and not to change the course of the thread, I passed a cyclist tonight with headphones on. Really, is there a difference? He probably didn't hear people tell him they were passing, or hear a car horn. Anyway, it just irritated me at the time and brought this thread to mind!

    And, one other thought on cell phones...I think it should be illegal to talk on them while driving unless it's hands free, if even then. However, until it is, I will continue to conduct the few, short calls I get.

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    Originally posted by BikerDawg
    Hold the phone! I said I DO try to get off the road when I make a call, and if I'm on a highway, I won't pull over to take one.
    Sorry for the rant. Sometimes I can't help myself!

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