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Old 06-26-07, 04:03 AM   #1
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So how SHOULD I be securing my bike?

We've had a rash of bike thefts in the city lately, mostly by crack heads who trade them for a hit. I don't leave my bike out much but sometimes I'm in a store for half an hour or more. The local places usually have a cheap bike rack at best. I use a standard cable lock and a kryptonyte U lock, interlacing the tires and frame to the rack. But as I understand it this will only slow a thief down a little. What's the locking methods and combination of locks have folks developed?
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Old 06-26-07, 05:21 AM   #2
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Sheldon has the answer:

http://sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
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Old 06-26-07, 06:08 AM   #3
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This method locks everything.

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Use the "search" function and search for "kryptonite". You will find ten threads in the past few months that discuss both locks and locking techniques in great detail. Photos of locking techniques. Links to sites with lock ratings.
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Old 06-26-07, 09:25 AM   #5
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Use the "search" function and search for "kryptonite". You will find ten threads in the past few months that discuss both locks and locking techniques in great detail. Photos of locking techniques. Links to sites with lock ratings.
Good tip, Alan. Thanx.
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Here ya go.
Obviously works for this bicyclist.
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Use the "search" function and search for "kryptonite". You will find ten threads in the past few months that discuss both locks and locking techniques in great detail. Photos of locking techniques. Links to sites with lock ratings.
Another way to search... Go to Google and type in the word you're searching for followed by site:www.bikeforums.net

That will bring you a regular Google search results page, and then each link will bring you to a page with all the replies right there, sans sig lines, avatars, space-taking-up stuff--plus you can see your word in context on the search results page. Then, if you click on the links, on that BikeForums page you can Ctrl-F and search for the word you were looking for.

I haven't had much luck using the BikeForums search feature--if you search for kryptonite it'll get you to the first page of what could be a 50-page thread in which someone is possibly joking about Superman on the 35th page, y'know?
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Thanks for the suggestions. I picked up a smaller U lock today to get a tighter fit. That plus I'll start removing by post and saddle--esp. since I just got a Brooks!
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Thanks for the suggestions. I picked up a smaller U lock today to get a tighter fit. That plus I'll start removing by post and saddle--esp. since I just got a Brooks!
There is no need to remove the seatpost every time you lock up. You could do several much more efficient things.

1) Get a seatpost with a bolt and forget about it.

2) Use a cable that goes under your seatpost rails and loops to your U-lock.

3) Use Pitlock locking skewers for your wheels and seatpost. (I use them and like them a lot.)
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Old 06-27-07, 02:21 AM   #10
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DON'T lock your bike!
That's a sure sign that you may not be back for awhile.

If you ARE going to be awhile, ride a beater rather than your "real" bike. Something no one would steal anyway.
Don't HAVE a "beater"? Get one! I can find $10-$20 functional bikes almost any day of the week.
And $20 is far less than any of those heavy, clunky, useless locks anyway.
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I've heard of supergluing a small ball bearing inside your Hex bolt heads to keep thieves from using their own allen wrenches. If you need to adjust later, a few drops of acetone from the hardware store will take out the glue.

In China they do what Dr. Deltron says because theft is so rampant there. Nobody buys a new bike, they just keep rebuying "used" ones.
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"There is no need to remove the seatpost every time you lock up."

For the record the reason you remove the seatpost, and other parts, is to reduce the value of the bike, making it less of a target to rational thieves.
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Old 06-28-07, 08:07 AM   #13
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the reason you remove the seatpost, and other parts, is to reduce the value of the bike, making it less of a target to rational thieves.
The OP is dealing with crackheads. Hardly a rational group... For that matter, thieves of any ilk are hardly rational. And what's to keep either group from swiping someone else's saddle and seatpost to put on your bike?

Cosmoline: Chances are pretty good that your current strategy is sufficient to thwart garden-variety crackheads. While enterprising, they lack persistence because they have problems with paranoia. If you're in a public place--like a store--you need only slow them down a minute or two before they get paranoid and run off.

Still, removing quick-release parts or the quick-releases is advised. It keeps them from swiping the QR component to see if they can get anything for it.

Professional bike thieves are another matter entirely...

The other thing you have going for you is that your bike is quite distinctive, you are seen on it everywhere, and Speeenard 'laska probably doesn't qualify as a metropolis. This makes your bike (slightly) less salable than an X-Mart bike or even most LBS bikes. However, it still falls into the the quick, disposable transport category.

Edit: Although there seems to be a Spenard in Anchorage, which is probably large enough to dispose of well-known good anonymously.

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Old 06-28-07, 03:53 PM   #14
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Spenard is a neighborhood in Los Anchorge. There's a pretty thriving black market here. I try to keep my bike with me or near me at all times, but they won't let me roll it down through supermarkets and malls.
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