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    i started wearing a helmet

    not for the 'traditional' reasons. and not because i experienced some life-altering close call.

    i'm doing it for liability reasons. to explain;
    - there is a dekalb county sheriff's deputy who has a real hard-on for roadies....i don't want to give him one more reason to be a d&^k. what sucks, is he doesn't know the ILCS regarding cycling very well. (there's a new bill on the governer's desk that will make things much safer for us.......if the word gets out).

    - cagers are getting more brazen about their displeasure for roadies. twice, a cager tried to pass me when there were on-coming cars. one was a semi. both times, oncoming traffic had to swerve onto the should to avoid being hit. and, yes, both times, those who had to swerve flipped me off. [kind of funny if you ignore the whole, almost getting killed part]

    - with all of these close calls, i don't want my [or the cager's] insurance companies looking for a reason not to pay up....so its not because of my fear of injury....its my fear of lack of culpability/liability on the part of others.

    i hate wearing a helmet....but i'm afraid not to now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomship47
    not for the 'traditional' reasons. and not because i experienced some life-altering close call.

    i'm doing it for liability reasons. to explain;
    - there is a dekalb county sheriff's deputy who has a real hard-on for roadies....i don't want to give him one more reason to be a d&^k. what sucks, is he doesn't know the ILCS regarding cycling very well. (there's a new bill on the governer's desk that will make things much safer for us.......if the word gets out).

    - cagers are getting more brazen about their displeasure for roadies. twice, a cager tried to pass me when there were on-coming cars. one was a semi. both times, oncoming traffic had to swerve onto the should to avoid being hit. and, yes, both times, those who had to swerve flipped me off. [kind of funny if you ignore the whole, almost getting killed part]

    - with all of these close calls, i don't want my [or the cager's] insurance companies looking for a reason not to pay up....so its not because of my fear of injury....its my fear of lack of culpability/liability on the part of others.

    i hate wearing a helmet....but i'm afraid not to now.
    A decent helmet is lightweight and well-ventilated. Once you wear one for a while, you won't even notice it any more. I find it even less obtrusive than using a seatbelt in my car.

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    and the first time you actually do crash while wearing one, you'll hopefully be able to say to yourself afterwards, "Boy, I sure am glad I was wearing that helmet!"

    that's the most common statement I've heard from bicyclists that have been in crashes. I've said it myself.
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    A long time ago I was complaining about the price of a helmet (required for racing) and a simple man stated, "If you have a hundred dollar head wear a hundred dollar helmet." This made more sense as time passed.

    Since my head is worth more than nothing, I bought one of the highest rated helmets by Consumer Reports.

    What is this bill laying on Blagojevich's desk? SB0080?
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    kind of funny if you ignore the whole, almost getting killed part

    Most near death experiences like this have ended up making me laugh afterwards. I was putting together a metal framed bed with a friend, and it dropped on the wall socket, landing right on the prongs of the surge protector stuck into the wall socket, sending sparks flying everywhere. Luckily neither of us were touching the bed at the moment. We were rolling around on the floor laughing afterwards at how ludicrous it would have been to go down like that.

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    The only ticket I've gotten in my life was in DeKalb.

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    I honestly don't even notice my Bell Sweep R while riding. Half the time I even forget to remove it while we're stopped to grab snacks and a drink. It's that weightless and comfortable.

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    Yeah, I rarely notice my helmet after the first few minutes of any ride.

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    I even forget that I'm wearing my Bell MTB helmet.....and I've paid for it too, when I try to get into the car. Since my Grand Prix sits fairly low anyway, the first reminder that I'm wearing my helmet is when I smack my head into the car roof....

    Glad you're wearing a helmet - I see way too many riders without them, and probably just as many wearing them as plastic yarmulkes, or even without the straps buckled. I just want to hear the riders explain (with a straight face) how that's going to protect their head in a crash.
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    My helmet gives me eyes in the back of my head. I feel really limited when I go out without it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmoline
    My helmet gives me eyes in the back of my head. I feel really limited when I go out without it.
    Mine does that too. It's where I have my rear view mirror mounted.

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    What is this bill laying on Blagojevich's desk? SB0080?
    yes, i believe that's the one.


    got a call from a buddy today (he lives in dekalb). on his ride, a guy backed out of his driveway into the street without looking. my buddy saw this coming so he stopped and braced (i guess there wasn't a shoulder to swerve on to). guy hit him and knocked him down. no injuries other than a couple of scrapes and a headache. he yells to the guy. the guy looks in his rear view mirror, flips him off and leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomship47
    yes, i believe that's the one.


    got a call from a buddy today (he lives in dekalb). on his ride, a guy backed out of his driveway into the street without looking. my buddy saw this coming so he stopped and braced (i guess there wasn't a shoulder to swerve on to). guy hit him and knocked him down. no injuries other than a couple of scrapes and a headache. he yells to the guy. the guy looks in his rear view mirror, flips him off and leaves.
    Hit and run, my guess is it's a felony in his state. I'd press charges against Mr. Flipoff.

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    here's the goocher!

    he stayed put and called the fuzz. cop comes, takes it pretty seriously...radioed for an ambulance even tho my buddy assured him he was ok. then the cop asked...do you want me to give him a ticket?

    you'd think hit and run (with minor injuries) would be a big deal!
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomship47
    here's the goocher!

    he stayed put and called the fuzz. cop comes, takes it pretty seriously...radioed for an ambulance even tho my buddy assured him he was ok. then the cop asked...do you want me to give him a ticket?

    you'd think hit and run (with minor injuries) would be a big deal!
    Bad cop, no donut! It is a big deal!

    Try these on for size:

    Section 5/11-401, Failure to stop and render aid. Class 4 felony. Penalty: License revocation.
    Section 5/11-403, Failure to give information and render aid. Class A misdemeanor.
    Section 5/11-406, Duty to report accident. Penalty: License suspension.
    Section 5/11-407, Failure to notify police of accident.

    Personally, I think the hit and run mofo should be brought to justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bekologist
    and the first time you actually do crash while wearing one, you'll hopefully be able to say to yourself afterwards, "Boy, I sure am glad I was wearing that helmet!"

    that's the most common statement I've heard from bicyclists that have been in crashes. I've said it myself.
    Yes, that's what I thought in my last (only, really) cycling accident as I was flying over the handlebars. The ambulance emt said I was sure lucky to have been wearing a helmut. Now, I didn't hit anything with head or helmut, but for a few brief instants, it was a comforting thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomship47
    not for the 'traditional' reasons. and not because i experienced some life-altering close call.

    i'm doing it for liability reasons. to explain;
    - there is a dekalb county sheriff's deputy who has a real hard-on for roadies....i don't want to give him one more reason to be a d&^k. what sucks, is he doesn't know the ILCS regarding cycling very well. (there's a new bill on the governer's desk that will make things much safer for us.......if the word gets out).

    - cagers are getting more brazen about their displeasure for roadies. twice, a cager tried to pass me when there were on-coming cars. one was a semi. both times, oncoming traffic had to swerve onto the should to avoid being hit. and, yes, both times, those who had to swerve flipped me off. [kind of funny if you ignore the whole, almost getting killed part]

    - with all of these close calls, i don't want my [or the cager's] insurance companies looking for a reason not to pay up....so its not because of my fear of injury....its my fear of lack of culpability/liability on the part of others.

    i hate wearing a helmet....but i'm afraid not to now.

    Helmet will keep you cooler than non helmeted in the summer.

    Friend of mine took a spill on a muddy patch on the cycle path around San Antonio, and she hit the ground hard. 60 dollar helmet probably saved her 3k of hospital bills.
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    wear the helmet and soon you wont even notice it on your head ..

    I didnt wear a helmet for years , but now days i am happy to wear it.
    I have it almost all the time when i get on my bike ..

    even though , with that said i dont wear it to ride across the street to get some grocerys ..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Order
    Bad cop, no donut! It is a big deal!

    Try these on for size:

    Section 5/11-401, Failure to stop and render aid. Class 4 felony. Penalty: License revocation.
    Section 5/11-403, Failure to give information and render aid. Class A misdemeanor.
    Section 5/11-406, Duty to report accident. Penalty: License suspension.
    Section 5/11-407, Failure to notify police of accident.

    Personally, I think the hit and run mofo should be brought to justice.
    Oops, I forgot a couple:

    5/11-906, failure to yield right of way.
    5/11-1003.1, failure to exercise due care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomship47
    i hate wearing a helmet....but i'm afraid not to now.
    Your explanation's a good one to me. It's like not wearing a seat belt. It doesn't matter if it helps save you or not (because there's always the oddball collision where NOT wearing the seat belt would have been better, RARE as it may be), but if you weren't wearing it, you would probably get cited for not having it fastened, and you also wouldn't get nearly as much sympathy from a jury .

    But, as everyone else has said, you do get to the point where you don't notice it when you are wearing it, but it feels really odd when you don't.

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