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Old 09-30-07, 06:02 PM   #1
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'08 Orange Orbea Orca STOLEN from Indy Bike Shop

This was just plain CRAZY! I was in Gray Goat Sports in Indianapolis, IN Saturday afternoon. I walked in to drop off a poster and some applications for a United Way Benefit ride my local club is hosting. There was a “customer” and a salesperson talking about an ’08 orange Orbea Orca there on display. I was waiting for them to finish so I could ask about leaving the ride info. The “customer” had asked a question about the Orbea that the salesperson couldn’t answer….but I was able to answer….so I did. And of course, I chimed in about how great I felt the Orca was (since I have one). And, I just gave a pretty good “testimonial” about the bike. The salesperson got busy with another customer so I stayed and shot the breeze with the “customer” and continued raving about the Orca. I explained I was just dropping off some literature for an upcoming ride. The guy looked at a couple other bikes and commented on some other ones…just basically idle chatter. The “customer” brought the bike to the back and had them air the tires so he could take it for a test ride. I dropped off my paperwork and left. This was about 5:00 PM, Saturday evening. At about 8:30 PM, I get a call from Brian at Gray Goat Sports asking me if I was the guy that dropped off the literature for the bike ride. I told him I was. He then asked me if I knew the guy that was looking at the Orbea Orca. I replied I didn’t. He asked if I caught the guy’s name or any other details about the guy because he had taken the Orca out for a test ride and never returned!! Holy Cow!!! What balls!! This guy steals a bike that sticks out like a sore thumb!! This bike was obviously quite original. It was an ’08 orange Orbea Orca, complete Dura-Ace groupset, Zeus carbon seat post and stem, Zeus alloy bars, the new Mavic wheels with the round carbon spokes…I don’t even know the style of those wheels….but I bet they weren’t cheap!

So, everybody please keep an eye out for this bike. A person should have no trouble spotting this bike or the wheels for that matter. I stopped by the shop on Sunday before I left Indy and expressed how sorry I was about them losing that bike. I told Brian I partly felt to blame since I was raving on and on about that Orca being the bike to have….and now that guy has it! The guy looked like a runner/cyclist type. He was about 5’-8”, maybe weighed 140-150 lbs. soaking wet, dark/dirty blond hair. He was wearing a loose-fitting shirt and I noticed a tattoo on his upper chest…I think it was on his left upper chest….not positive, though…and I couldn’t tell you what it was…I want to say it was like a cross of some sort…but I can’t be positive about that. Brian said the guy had been in the store several times before and had test ridden other bikes. He recalled the guy driving a white Saab. The police were pretty positive about recovering the bike saying that we had given them plenty of information. So, hopefully, this guy gets what’s coming! Hopefully, somebody reading this will know of the guy and turn him in!
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Old 09-30-07, 06:18 PM   #2
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I bet we see it parted out on eBay.

BTW, do they have video of the guy?
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Old 09-30-07, 06:20 PM   #3
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What the guy did was wrong...

But, in my opinion, if they didn't take "due dilligence" to ensure they could identify the guy if he stole the bike (ie, copy his driver's license), then I don't know what they were thinking!
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What shop allows customers to test ride a bike without providing at the very least I.D. This is the shops fault.
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Old 09-30-07, 06:35 PM   #5
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Maybe he crashed and is now in a hospital with amnesia.

That's bad news for the shop though. Around here the shop employees always come outside and watch you while you test ride.
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Old 09-30-07, 07:11 PM   #6
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Yeah....Brian had mentioned the guy had been in previously and test-rode a few other bikes and he had always held the guys license...but never made a photocopy...and the shop couldn't remember the guy's name. Saturday, Brian said he was just busy, had a lot of people in the shop at closing time and let the guy take it for a ride....dang....I don't know if there was any video or not....I'm just guessing not??

Brian's first thought was the guy wrecked the bike and was in the hospital or something....but I don't think he was that lucky! But, I agree....with a bike that stands out as much as that bike would stand out......my money is on it'll be parted out and sold on ebay and/or craigslist...or somewhere similar.
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If they didn't take ID then insurance won't cover it!
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Brian should be fired
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The guy probably didn't even plan on stealing it. Probably walked out the door and then realized that the shop didn't have his ID.

Unless he's done it before, he'll probably be sh1ttin' bricks until November. Every single telephone ring and every knock on the door will make him cringe.

Do shops record serial numbers?
If his car is not in the parking lot then your theory does not hold water. He planned it if he came without leaving anything behind to identify himself. Strange.

It sounds like the guy has been in more than once test riding bikes. Brian has had his ID and cannot remember his name and does not follow procedure. If I were his boss he would be looking for a new job.
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I'm not sure....but I believe Brian = Boss/Owner??

My better half seems to think that the guy outright stole it for the purpose of greed. She says I pumped the guy up so much about how great of a bike it was and he just had to have that bike.
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Old 10-01-07, 06:26 AM   #11
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tattoo + white saab = ******nozzle

jus' saying...the warning signs were readily apparent
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Old 10-01-07, 07:37 AM   #12
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I don't entirely like the tone of the 'blame the victim' responses here. Theft is a crime; trust is NOT a crime. Do I think the shop staff should have followed proceedure and gotten the customer's ID? Yes I do. Does their failure to do so automatically confer some sort of 'right' to steal the bike? No, I don't. Does the failure to follow normal proceedures make the theft of the bike somehow more excusable? No. Does the failure to follow proceedures somehow make the shop less of a victim? NO! All in all, this is just a sad learning experience for the shop. Let's hope the bike turns up.
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Ya, if you go in to steal an orbea, you're not a run of the mill impulse thief. you plan it out, figure out what stores have what measures in place, and you wait for the right moment. i personally am not a thief, i would kill myself for teh guilt of stealuing, but as a loss preventionist in retail for many years, people will literally sit in a parking lot and wait until they see a large enough group go in to create a diversion. nothing is worse for theft than being busy. hence thieves come in packs around teh holidays and big sales. it sucks, but that is the way it works. ive seen people take a $400 baby stroller, walk it around the store adn shop until the store is busy, go through the register and buy a pair of socks, and stroll out with the stroller. people are good, adn good thieves are smart. he may put it away, in perfect shape, and not touch it for a few years, or put the gruppo on another frame, and just toss teh frame. sucky eh?
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I had a bike stolen this weekend, and reported it to the police. Their question: "What color is it?" So to you, it stick out like a sore thumb. To the police and most of the public its an "orange bike". (At least mine wasn't new, expensive, or good.
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If he's been to the shop multiple times in the past to "test" ride bikes, and each time they held his I.D., maybe he's just been trying repeatedly until they forgot to ask for his I.D. This time he did it right--by going in when the staff was so distracted they forgot about his I.D., and he made off with a bike for once. Try, try again...

I also wonder if that I.D. he showed in the past was even legit.

I've bought a few parts off eBay in the past--even recently--and it's always claimed they're taken off a new bike to be replaced with better parts, or slightly used and not liked. I do my best to ignore my inner thoughts that every bike part on eBay might be stolen, but there's a high chance most of them are, unfortunately. After saying that, though, I've also sold quite a few parts on eBay off my wife's bike when I replaced them with better (lighter) stuff, so at least there's something being sold on there that's legit.
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What shop allows customers to test ride a bike without providing at the very least I.D. This is the shops fault.
I just recently bought my first bike in 35 years. I bought two bikes, actually. The shop let me take some 15 or 20 different bikes out to ride without asking for my ID or even my name.

Edit: And no, I don't have an orange Orbea Orca.

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Posted on the CIBA forum:

Gray Goat Sports has issued a $500 cash reward for the return of this bike. Pls be on the lookout for this bike and forward this message on to your friends and fellow cyclists out of state. It could be worth $500. Also, if you are friends with the thief that stole this bike, maybe your ex-friendship is worth $500. Thanks everyone for your help.

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I don't entirely like the tone of the 'blame the victim' responses here. Theft is a crime; trust is NOT a crime. Do I think the shop staff should have followed proceedure and gotten the customer's ID? Yes I do. Does their failure to do so automatically confer some sort of 'right' to steal the bike? No, I don't. Does the failure to follow normal proceedures make the theft of the bike somehow more excusable? No. Does the failure to follow proceedures somehow make the shop less of a victim? NO! All in all, this is just a sad learning experience for the shop. Let's hope the bike turns up.
Is anyone blaming the victim? no, they're not. Do we all think the victim is a bit of a dill for not getting ID before handing over a big $$$ bike for a test ride? yes, we do. Is this asking and answering my own questions really annoying? yes, it is. Do I have any more questions for myself? no, I don't. So will I finally shuddup now? yes, I will.
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How unfortunate for Gray Goat, those are a bunch of good guys over there. I have test ridden a few of their bikes as well as 3 or 4 other Indy bike stores. Seems our local growing population has a few rotten apples. They have a pretty nice selection of bikes, guess I better stop by again and check them out.
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I just recently bought my first bike in 35 years. I bought two bikes, actually. The shop let me take some 15 or 20 different bikes out to ride without asking for my ID or even my name.

Edit: And no, I don't have an orange Orbea Orca.
Um wow.
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Good News....the would be thief..err..."test rider"....returned the Orbea back to the shop with the following story.....something about having the bike stolen from him while out test riding it. He panicked not knowing what to do...saw it advertised on the internet and bought it back for $250 so he could bring it back to the bike shop.......yeah right!

Personally...me thinks somebody on the internet saw this guys description posted here and on other bicycle sites, knew him, confronted him about it, and gave him some options out....and he wisely took an option realizing he could never take this bike out in public and he would never be able to sell such a unique bike. I guess he should have stolen a Trek....nobody ever would have given a Trek a second glance about being stolen. Pretty easy to spot the same models/color schemes on any given day at any given organized event.

Glad to see the power of the internet at work for something useful for a change!
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Was there a local big ride during this time? Lots of people "borrow" stuff and bring it back later.

If in fact his ID is him then he is either really, really, stupid, or did not intend to steal it.
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Good News....the would be thief..err..."test rider"....returned the Orbea back to the shop with the following story.....something about having the bike stolen from him while out test riding it. He panicked not knowing what to do...saw it advertised on the internet and bought it back for $250 so he could bring it back to the bike shop.......yeah right!
Actually, someone in the NYC area recently listed an Orca on Craigslist. Turns out he wasn't selling it, but had it stolen from him while out on a test ride, so he was trying to track down people who might have contacted someone selling an Orca for cheap. Anyway, he says it has been recovered.

Odd that this happened in your area and NYC, both with Orbea Orcas. Link to the ad on CL.
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