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Yes, you committed a heresy, but that's OK once in a while 9 22.50%
Yes, you committed a heresy, Don't do it again 2 5.00%
Yes, you committed a heresy, quit riding completely as of now and don't even think of doing it again - what the heck were you thinking anyway? 10 25.00%
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Old 08-17-03, 02:36 AM   #1
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Sacrilege?

OK, so I broke down today and actually listened to something a driver said to me . In the closing stages of a 180km ride, I was faced with a blistering headwind - at that stage I was just pacing myself having completed most of the ride in reasonable time (and preserving my shoulder). Then this guy yelled out "Go you little Nugget!".

I wasn't totally sure what he meant by "Nugget", but I thought, bugger it! I might as well. So I attacked the wind - the shoulder stood up, and I got home tired but happy. In honour of this occurrence, I have now changed my avatar and status. What I want to know is, have I now crossed some invisible line? Did I commit a heresy?
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Old 08-17-03, 08:46 AM   #2
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Having nuggets myself, I see no problem! Keep on riding bro!
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And here I thought you changed your avatar because of the ape conspiracy theory that started on another thread
Did you step over the line? Maybe but I would just ask how your shoulder feels?
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I voted that it is a heresy, but that is OK. Still what you originally think you are is what you should remain. Even shoulder injury does not change us from our zealotry, I think.
My question. I have never clearly understood the verbal hassles we have to endure from motorists , unless the car is moving really slow.
So are you sure you heard correctly? What if they called you
nougart. Would you still go with that? I don't like the taste of nougat. Compare thee not to a confection.
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Isn't it possible that the words were offered by a fellow cyclist, one who just happened at that time to be driving? (C'mon, some if not most of us here do drive automobiles at least occasionally. )

Whatever the case, you rose to a challenge, one that you alone chose to accept. Good on ya!

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Yes, you commited a heresy, but speaking as a man of the cloth that does his own sewing, heresy is good.
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Old 08-17-03, 09:57 PM   #7
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And here I thought you changed your avatar because of the ape conspiracy theory that started on another thread
Did you step over the line? Maybe but I would just ask how your shoulder feels?
Oh, the shoulder's fine today. It was a good test for it yesterday (although I doubt I would have said that if it hadn't gone so well).

BTW, ape conspiracy? Did I miss something?
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Old 08-18-03, 06:32 AM   #8
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i believe the heresy committed was when you used the phrase 'bugger it' what does this mean in this context?
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Riph.. Think it is now night in Australia. I have heard that expression in Canada and England. I believe it is a colloquialism similiar to the well-worn US expression, only somewhat cleaner?
Something you would need to use asterisks for, if the writer were to choose the more profane variation of this expression.
Riph..You have had another child? It was you that was thinking of riding in last years OATBRAN ride in Nevada, No? Still think you might be interested?
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Riph.. Think it is now night in Australia. I have heard that expression in Canada and England. I believe it is a colloquialism similiar to the well-worn US expression, only somewhat cleaner?
Something you would need to use asterisks for, if the writer were to choose the more profane variation of this expression.
Yep, that was the context in which I was using the phrase "bugger it".
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Old 08-19-03, 12:49 AM   #11
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i believe the heresy committed was when you used the phrase 'bugger it' what does this mean in this context?
No, it's not heresy. It's sodomy.

My question is: why is 'bugger' considered clean, when colloquialisms for more conventional sexual practices isn't?

Just looking for a little consistency here.

As to the poll: I have no idea what you're talking about.
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NUGGET NUGGET NUGGET

GO YOU LITTLE NUGGET!!!!!

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What I have always been curious about you the Ango speaking parts of the world.? The word bloody. It is used more commonly there than New Yorkers use our American favoret epithet! No need elaborate further!
So is bloody as bad a bugger. Heah, Alister, when out cycling- I think almost 100% of Cyclists use one of the hundreds of derivations of this word, at least one time per ride- of varying decibels.
So what is the significence of the word bloody?
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And what about "sod that" or "sod it" is that the
same as bugger, or bloody?

Chris, Use the Nugget or not, I personally liked
fat faced gorilla. . .


Bugger that, I don't bloody get it.


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'Bloody' is usually used like 'very'. eg. Bloody beaut = very good indeed, bloody idiot = more of an idiot than an idiot etc.
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No, it's not heresy. It's sodomy.

My question is: why is 'bugger' considered clean, when colloquialisms for more conventional sexual practices isn't?
Perhaps that's a question that needs to be directed at wider society. Remember that not so long ago an advertising executive somewhere made a lot of money out of using that word in a few television commercials. Methinks (s)he would have been considerably less successful had they used some of the other words you refer to.

However, my guess would be that because over time some words lose their original meaning in the way they are used. Think about it, there was a time when "gay" meant happy, now it has a completely different meaning (and that comment is not offended to offend any homosexuals reading this, who I'm sure are quite happy with they way they live their lives).

I can still remember my grandfather telling me of a time when being called a larrakin was the worst insult imaginable - now people use it as a joke. I'd say the word "bugger" has gone through a similar evolution.

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As to the poll: I have no idea what you're talking about.
I'm simply asking whether it's sacrilege for a cyclist (in this case, me) to listen to something a driver yells out a car window.
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I'm simply asking whether it's sacrilege for a cyclist (in this case, me) to listen to something a driver yells out a car window.
Dunno. Do you consider cyling to be a religion?
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Dunno. Do you consider cyling to be a religion?
I can't speak for Chris on that one, however I would have to say for myself the answer would be yes.
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You probably are not going to hell for this one...unless the supreme being shaves his legs and wears padded shorts.
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I think he means nugget in the newbie kind of way:

nugget: Used to describe someone who is a novice or new at performing a particular task. Origin: student naval aviators are referred to as nuggets until they get their wings. Related to the word golden, since if you are not a nugget, you are golden.

www.slangsite.com/slang/N.html

Alternatively it could have been maggot used in the army go go go kind of way? And I certainly hope it wasn't nuglet
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I'm simply asking whether it's sacrilege for a cyclist (in this case, me) to listen to something a driver yells out a car window.
Ummmmmm.......no. Not in this case.

To respond to a subthread inside this thread:
Bugger, frig, and shag all can be used in polite company or in front of your mother. I.e. You shagger! Bugger off! Ah frig it!

None of these will result in a head slap from my mother (previously tested....you can trust me). So there're ok!

ChrisL, no offence, but loose the nugget and get the Gorillia back. I miss the Gorilla. I need the Gorilla. I WANT the Gorilla. It has become a part of my Bike Forum experience.

Every one join in this chant!

WE WANT THE GORILLA!

WE WANT THE GORILLA!

WE WANT THE GORILLA!

WE WANT THE GORILLA!

WE WANT THE GORILLA!

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It kinda works since it says "Gold Coast" right below the nugget.
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Dunno. Do you consider cyling to be a religion?
Yep. In view of world events over the last couple of years, I'd say it's probably based on stronger moral grounds than many of the other things people consider to be religions.
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ChrisL, no offence, but loose the nugget and get the Gorillia back. I miss the Gorilla. I need the Gorilla. I WANT the Gorilla. It has become a part of my Bike Forum experience.

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Hmmm... I got rid of the gorilla (briefly) last year for that stupid "mouth of the south" avatar that I had for a while. Everyone wanted the gorilla back. Now the same thing looks like it might be happening...

I was just getting worried that it made me look stupid.
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I was just getting worried that it made me look stupid.
There is nothing stupid about a big silver backed gorilla! Those "buggers" are huge and I imagine will pull your arms off if you get them p.o.'ed enough. They scare me.
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