I think Surly are one of the few frame brands i'd consider buying new. I just really like their company and products (though i know some others do not, but that debate is for another thread).
I hear their products are bomb proof, very versatile and from what i have seen this is all true. But if there is any complaint that i have also heard about their frames is that they are rather heavy.
But what does this mean?
Could anyone make a comparison in terms of actual grams/Kilos difference when compared to:
1. Similar frames by other brands (IRO, On One, Soma etc)
2. Real nice touring frames of the bike boom era (531 reynolds and such, so not apples and oranges, i am talking steel frames).
If you compare how marked is the difference... are we talking a few hundred grams or way more?
Anyone have some actual figures or real life experience or comparisons.
Also what does that extra beef buy you. Does it mean the frame will not fail in conditions where the aforementioned "competitors" just might?