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    Good article on bicycling to school.


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    On a nearby sidewalk, parents lead a group of children to school on a "walking bus" a convoy of kids without the bus. It's part of the Safe Routes to School program, a $612 million effort to increase physical activity among students throughout the nation by getting them to bike or walk to school.


    Wait, what's the $612,000,000 for again? Parents walking with children or riding a bike with children seems like the monetarily cheapest thing in the world, even if it's immensely valuable. Are they spending it on advertising? I'm actually curious about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shumacher View Post
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    Wait, what's the $612,000,000 for again? Are they spending it on advertising? I'm actually curious about this.
    I suspect the money is earmarked for roadway improvements to make them more pedistrian and bicycle friendly. Like it or not, we have developed suburban areas that aren't designed very well for getting around anyway except by private automobile.

    Many people have a vision in their minds of a middle school that's maybe a mile over subdivision streets from where they live. That's just not the way that it is where I live. I work in a large suburban school district. Some of the middle school students live over 20 miles away. The middle schools also tend to be located just off of busy, high speed roads - roads that I personally avoid on my bicycle and roads that I certainly wouldn't want my 11 or 12 year old kids riding on.

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    So when will all cities implement bike lanes? Or, to even maintain current bike paths..

    Oh wait, this is America...
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    Quote Originally Posted by shumacher View Post
    On a nearby sidewalk, parents lead a group of children to school on a "walking bus" a convoy of kids without the bus. It's part of the Safe Routes to School program, a $612 million effort to increase physical activity among students throughout the nation by getting them to bike or walk to school.


    Wait, what's the $612,000,000 for again? Parents walking with children or riding a bike with children seems like the monetarily cheapest thing in the world, even if it's immensely valuable. Are they spending it on advertising? I'm actually curious about this.
    I can't answer those questions - I just happened to see the article earlier on Yahoo and thought it was good in that it made walking or bicycling to school look good. You don't see many articles like that, do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
    I suspect the money is earmarked for roadway improvements to make them more pedistrian and bicycle friendly. Like it or not, we have developed suburban areas that aren't designed very well for getting around anyway except by private automobile.

    Many people have a vision in their minds of a middle school that's maybe a mile over subdivision streets from where they live. That's just not the way that it is where I live. I work in a large suburban school district. Some of the middle school students live over 20 miles away. The middle schools also tend to be located just off of busy, high speed roads - roads that I personally avoid on my bicycle and roads that I certainly wouldn't want my 11 or 12 year old kids riding on.

    Just like the ones around here. There are a ring of subdivisions near and around where the schools are located, however they are all lollipop style and the only access road to the schools is a narrow 2 lane 45mph POSTED (55+mph average) that carries way too much traffic. A far cry from the old neighborhoods schools that I remember. There are no side walks and no way for an adult much less a child to ride to school safely. In fact there have been several bad wrecks right in front the middle school caused by the high schoolers and other inattentive drivers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JPradun View Post
    So when will all cities implement bike lanes? Or, to even maintain current bike paths..

    Oh wait, this is America...
    Yeah. Unless you have a really good VOmax I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by no motor? View Post
    I can't answer those questions - I just happened to see the article earlier on Yahoo and thought it was good in that it made walking or bicycling to school look good. You don't see many articles like that, do you?
    I can. The 612 million goes toward two types of programs : Infrastructure programs and Education Programs. The Infrastructure grants are used to improve conditions near schools. (i.e. paint crosswalks, complete MUP paths, add crossing signals) so that the conditions are safer for kids to walk or bike to school.

    The other piece pays for my job (education) which is going into the schools and doing bicycle/pedestrian safety courses combined with some bicycle skills development with the kids as well as coordinating with the schools, the parents, and the community to put on encouragement programs to get the kids walking and biking to school.

    Considering the amount of money that goes into Roads in the U.S. the 612 million over five years is chicken scratch.

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    Wait...kids need a program to get them to walk to school.... I've always lived fairly close to school (within the 2 mile for the school bus area) and walked until I got a drivers license...Has it changed that most kids get driven to school now? (I've not been in that kind of situation for 15 years now...)

    What a wonderful use of my tax money =|. Can we just smack the parents upside the head and be done with it?

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    In the UK there are several schools with bike trains as well as walking buses.

    A number of parents are trained to take gourps of kids to school by bike. All of them wear hi-viz tabards and there are parents for and aft of each group - not sure of the size

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