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Old 08-30-03, 07:05 AM   #1
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Fogging on Glasses or Goggles? Need Testers!

If you are a heavy fogger, I need your help to test a new antifog called FogTech. Information is at www.fogtech.com No cost to you, nada. I need to find out how it will work on cycling eye protection products. Works extremely well for motorcyclists and paintball players.

Just send me an email with your name, address and type of glasses/goggles to gene@motosolutions.com. I will then send you a sample size of FogTech. About 2 weeks after you get it, I will send an email asking a couple of questions about how it worked.

I have room for ten cyclists on this test. Please note on your email that you saw the test here in the BikeForums. Thanks.

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Old 08-30-03, 07:20 AM   #2
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Stuff like that has been around forever.When i rode dirtbikes in the 70's,they had stuff for gogglesCheaper is spit and rub it around like your cleaning.
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Old 08-30-03, 07:59 AM   #3
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You are right, there are lots of products on the market. I estimate that there are about 60 to 70 antifog solutions available. I have purchased and tested about 25 of them. Most don't work very well. Some only work on glass or a few types of coated plastic. And people are tired of trying them only to be disappointed.

I have a problem fogging my motorcycle helmet up here in Northern California. It is a real safety issue as I almost crashed leaving a party in Sausalito negotiating the hills on a rainy night. I thought--I have a chemistry background and lots of time due to being laid off from the software industry. I can solve this!

FogTech is the result of about 18 months of testing. I gave up several times. But one day about 8 months ago, I got lucky. I found a environmentally safe solvent system that dissolved an excellent surfactant. The solvent was most important so that a thin transparent layer of the surfactant could be deposited over the coated plastics.

That is where most of these other antifogs fail. The plastics in our goggles, glasses, and helmet shields are coated to prevent scratches. Every manufacturers coatings are different. And they resist most solvents like water or alcohol. (Spit does not cover coated plastic very well. OK on scuba masks sometimes.) So you can't get a good layer that adheres.

I believe I have solved that problem but I need testers for who participate in different sports to confirm FogTech's effectiveness under real life conditions.
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Old 08-30-03, 09:06 AM   #4
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I have used Dial soap and or dishwashing liquid for years, works fine for me and it's right there in the kitchen!
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I have used Dial soap and or dishwashing liquid for years, works fine for me and it's right there in the kitchen!
Interesting, how do you apply???? ThanX!
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Ask me again when winter arrives in the Northrn Hemisphere. That's when I have fogging problems.

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Usually dishwashing soap is highly diluted in water and then rubbed into your shield or goggles until it dries and hopefully turns clear. I say hopefully, because many have ingredients that will never clear up.

The soap has a surfactant that can work as a defogger on some goggles or glasses. Your experience may not be the same unless you use the same shield goggles or glasses.
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Interesting, how do you apply???? ThanX!
I just smear it on good and hard with my clean finger on a clean lense and wipe off with a cotton cloth untill it looks like it is all gone. It leaves a film of soap and it keeps the fog off. I have been doing this since I was a little fella, bout 30 years ago BTW!
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I use Sea Gold, made for dive masks.
Its a gel like substance, apply it, rinse it off and
you're good to go.

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