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Old 12-19-07, 06:58 AM   #1
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RECALL: US$200 Specialized D2 Helmets!

edit: should be "2D" helmets (sorry, haven't finished my morning java):

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml08/08138.html


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Old 12-19-07, 07:36 AM   #2
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I'm shocked and amazed to find out that a helmet failed the very easy and very basic government safety standard...especially given it was imported from the world center for "careful craftsmanship", the communist controlled portion of China.

Most expensive helmets used to carry the "Snell" sticker. The Snell standard included the staff of Snell going into stores and buying helmets and testing them...just having a pro-type pass the test was not enough. And, the Snell standard is much tougher than the government's standard for testing.

"Back in the day", most helmets with Snell stickers were made in the USA...tough, well-crafted helmets.

Has anyone seen a helmet in a bike shop with a Snell sticker lately?
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Old 12-19-07, 08:39 AM   #3
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Has anyone seen a helmet in a bike shop with a Snell sticker lately?
Yes. My Specialized Decibel. Several others in the line (at least as of the 2007 models) were as well. The Aurora was cited by Consumer Reports as being better because if its Snell rating.

That's the whole reason I bought Specialized.

Unfortunately, either Specialized has dropped from Snell, or the marketing types don't feel it's important enough to put on the web site. Who would buy a helmet because it's safe? Hey, how about that patented clip-on visor!

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Old 12-19-07, 09:41 AM   #4
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Has anyone seen a helmet in a bike shop with a Snell sticker lately?


My Uvex has one.
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From what I understand a helmet maker has to pay to have their helmet certified by Snell, hence the small number of Snell certified helmets. Lack of this certification does not necessarily imply that a helmet would not meet the standard.
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Must have tested positive for lead.
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From what I understand a helmet maker has to pay to have their helmet certified by Snell, hence the small number of Snell certified helmets. Lack of this certification does not necessarily imply that a helmet would not meet the standard.
But if would give me confidence in the product if it did have snell certification.
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All of my helmets from China have Snell certification. But Snell isn't the end all-be all of safety certifications. Fact is, it's a tough standard and some experts think it makes helmets tougher than the head they're supposed to protect. I defy you to get a panel of experts from CPSC, Snell, and the Euro folks at CE to agree on a helmet standard you'll actually wear. There aren't many, regardless of country of origin.
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servingss the rich bikers right. my $30 helmets always worked good.
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servingss the rich bikers right. my $30 helmets always worked good.
^^^ my thoughts exactly...I usually buy the old stock helmets when they hit the clearance tables. 'course some where in my collection I have one of the old Bell Biker helmets (no I don't use it anymore!)

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Thank you Linux for always posting recalls and such. It's very helpful. It's nice to know you care.
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That attitude getting you far in life is it?
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not attitude only buying the right helmet that dont get called back. and is good priced.
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It was my understanding that the buckle could prematurely release and, this was the reason for a recall. Understandably so since this would have to viewed as a safety issue. Anyway, Specialized appears to have replaced this helmet with a lower cost model called the "Propero". Just like the "D2", it is light, ventilated well and, fits like a fine glove. As a matter of fact, I think it might be the D2 repackaged with a different buckle. Regardless, it is a nice helmet. Snell certified too.

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCEqP...jsp?spid=33603
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$200

from

http://www.helmets.org/helmcost.htm

What does it cost to make a bike helmet?

This is a best guess page.....

...Now your shareholders expect you to make a profit. Every year, even if sales drop. So add in, say, another 50 cents per helmet. Now you are up to $4.85.

The cheapest helmets in Wal-Mart or Target stores sell for $7.14. That's about the markup I would expect. Bike dealers normally have to double the cost of their products to get to the retail price, a markup required to cover their overhead costs and the miserable profit a bike dealer can make.

And that's about as close as we can come.

If you want to produce Lance Armstrong's helmet, you add lots more in design costs, testing, manufacturing costs, advertising, promotional costs (supporting Lance and the team), and all the premium extras that make it worth paying a hundred bucks more for equal or perhaps even less impact protection.
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