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Old 01-24-08, 11:19 AM   #1
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why do I keep getting outside magazine?

I get all kinds of junk mail, but after I got three issues of 'Outside Magazine' I looked closer and saw I had a year's subscription. Now I like free stuff as well as the next guy, but this magazine was full of advertisements for SUV's and exotic travel destinations and c**p that really doesn't fit my lifestyle, and very little of interest to me. I couldn't distinguish the magazine from junk mail.

So I called them up and asked where this subscription came from. They told me Bike Nashbar gave it to me for being such a good customer! Naturally I told them to please stop it. But I'm not sure how to, uh, 'thank' Bike Nashbar (in the past they've given me coupons).

Anyone else have this problem?
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Old 01-24-08, 11:36 AM   #2
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I get Bicycling toiletpaper, eh.... i mean "magazine" because of nashbar.
I have the same car ad complaint. That mag is all about "conspicuous cycling consumption".
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why do I keep getting outside magazine?
Same reason I've been getting Working Mother magazine. Since I'm not a mother (or even a woman) or working (semi-retired) why am I getting this?
My wife doesn't have a clue either. She just takes it to work for anyone who wants it.
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Can you explain why I got Vibe for a year? It looked like an expensive magazine to produce, but I have no interest. Yes, I'm white.
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Can you explain why I got Vibe for a year? It looked like an expensive magazine to produce, but I have no interest. Yes, I'm white.
Perhaps you and you're fellow software engineers cornered a subscription salesman one night asking about money laundering?


I keep getting flyers and alumni magazines for some commuter college in Michigan that I have never heard of. My wife gets them too. We live in Colorado. She's never been to Michigan, I have only once--when I was 9.
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Anyone else have this problem?
Yep. No idea where it came from. I almost never buy from Nashbar; maybe it's from Performance? In any case, I don't want it. Find it even more predictable & repetitive than Bicycling, while being less interesting. Pure bird cage liner.
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Outside has had some good writing in it over the years.
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I have/ had a subscription to a free trade publication to Construction Specifying Engineer...I'm a designer not an engineer. I do write/read/compose specifications but that's not really my job... anyways, the whole office gets this free trade publication. Not only that but they just won't let you NOT receive it even when you ask to stop. I've toled them that EVERYONE in the office gets them, even the people that have retired, we have more than enough copies but they still send it. What a waste.
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I have been getting Outside magazine for sometime as well, I read a little of the first issue that received, but now they all go straight into the recycling bin, when I get them, along with the other junk mail.
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20 years ago, I was happy to pay for Outside. When Nashbar surprised me with a subscription, I found it to be way to "green" and political for my tastes.

It took me 6 months and several e-mails to get it canceled.
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Outside sucks blue whales, the largest known mammal in history.
I started getting it AND NG-Adventure when I caved in and bought a subscription to National Geographic as part of my niece's school fund-raising whatever-thingie.
SUCH CRAP that I seriously considered sneaking the issues into my local supermarket and placing them on the tabloid racks that form a gauntlet at each checkout-line. (At least they'll have a few more days or weeks to biodegrade before they're hucked into a landfill.)
I finally wrote them a nasty letter when I noticed this advertisement for the latest, gas-guzzling, wanna-be soldier-for-fortune vehicle, depicting a lake of oil on a scorched charcoal landscape:



immediately following
this commentary on saving this wildlife refuge from money-hungry oil drillers:

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^ that is some seriously f'ed up crap
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You probably have a "Team Performance" membership with Performance....when you get that, you get the Outside magazine subscription......

I like mine....
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Because you have a mailbox.
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Yes, it's the mailbox's fault!

Seriously, though, Nashbar now has it on their home page: if you spend $50 you get a free subscription, or have your subscription extended by a year. Or you can print a page off their website and send it to a certain address with your nashbar receipt (by snail mail) and you'll get a $10 refund. I wish everyone would do this --I'm still looking for my last receipt-- but for now I'm just not ordering from Nashbar.
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I save up all my magazines and take them to the doctor's office for the lobby. His Furry Highness is going to the Vet on Wednesday, and I'll be taking a whole stack with me then.
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I get Bicycling toiletpaper, eh.... i mean "magazine" because of nashbar.
I have the same car ad complaint. That mag is all about "conspicuous NAME YOUR PRODUCT consumption".
This is the magazine business in general and OUTSIDE does not have a corner on the market. But I do agree that while they often espouse the green way of living they editorials are severely compromised by some of the ads they take (calamarichris' post is a wonderful example).

For better or worse, OUTSIDE often has some very well written articles.
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Thank you for clearing this mystery up for me! I started getting Outside at my office a few months ago, which is where I have my nashbar orders shipped. I have since been puzzled why this is so.
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'Outside' hangs around my house for a month....except the current 'Jack Johnson' cover/issue. It's front-to-back crap.

They're losing me with their relentless 'green' campaigns, month after month, page by page....be clean/green and still get your $75K SUV with carbon coupons....yadda, yadda. Those fad boys keep going on too long for me. I get it. Shut-up now. Move on.
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They've been sending me "Outside magazine" for a while now too. I would prefer "Batman" or "Detective".
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Mail delivery is heavily subsidised, so it makes sense to send out free mags.

The publisher is paid by advertisers to get the mag into a certain number of peoples hands, even if that means giving it away. If they are ethical they will not report your subscription as not being a paid subscription.

The cost of send out a mag is much less than the profit from a possible future subscription. The free mag is a kind of advertising or pruduct sample.

You are considered an opinion leader. Your lemming friends will subscribe so they can be cool like you. Just like you buy name brand stuff to be cool like a celebrity.

Their mail list is all screwed up and people are getting the mag who have not paid.
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The more magazines that go out, the more Outside can charge for ad space. Simple as that.

I will offer kudos to Outside for doing away with subscription cards. Those little buggers have always been one of my pet peeves.
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