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    Spelling Rant

    As my girlfriend looked over my shoulder to ask me what i was doing on the computer i replied "i am on bike forums dear", she replied "are they all 14" i said why and she said "because they cant spell for ****". I found it funny. I spell stuff wrong all the time but i click edit and fix it. I didnt post this in a specific thread because i didnt want to insult anyone. Please people, this isnt tractorpullforums.net. We are generally well educated middle class people and we cant spell words like suggestion and aero as well as many other words. It is pathetic, read before you post. We look like idiots.

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    And are you perfect? Let's check out your post. Specifically:

    Originally posted by djbowen1


    i

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    "i" is always capitalized ("I") when used as a pronoun.

    "didnt" requires an apostrophe to show it is a contraction of "did not" and should be "didn't."

    "isnt" requires an apostrophe to show it is a contraction of "is not" and should be "isn't."

    "cant" requires an apostrophe to show it is a contraction of "can not" and should be "can't."
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    Does that go for grammar too?

    You knew this was coming...

    Originally posted by djbowen1
    As my girlfriend looked over my shoulder to ask me what I was doing on the computer, I replied "I am on bike forums dear". She replied "are they all 14?" I said, "Why?", and she said, "because they can't spell for ****". I found it funny. I spell stuff wrong all the time but I click edit and fix it. I didn’t post this in a specific thread because I didn’t want to insult anyone. Please people, this isn’t tractorpullforums.net. We are generally well educated middle class people and we can’t spell words like suggestion and aero as well as many other words. It is pathetic, read before you post. We look like idiots.
    Good point though, my friend. A little bit of effort goes a long way to getting a post taken more seriously. Typos are one thing, but blatant misspellings?

    *hint* Microsoft Word has a great spell check feature....

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    *disclaimer* grammatical errors and idiosyncrasies may still exist in the above post.

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    Spelling the word suggestion as siggestion is a bad typo. Why instead of why is typing. This is what started me off "bike sigestions". There is a difference between the two. It makes us look bad to the people who stumble across this website.

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    The same goes for AOL'ese in my ever-so-humble opinion. This is a rant I've been battling with the Mods over for a long time. It had gotten to the point that Joe included a "No AOL'ese" clause in the Forum guidelines:
    Disruption...Posts which intend to disrupt the topic of conversation or steer the topic away from the focus of the forum and related news. Disruption can include harassment, multiple user profiles, multiple posting of the same post and posting completely off topic messages. Please do your best when it comes to grammar, punctuation and spelling. Consistent use of "AOL'ese" and "hAx0r" talk can be very disruptive.
    My gripe? The offending posts get reported, yet no action is taken. No friendly reminders / warnings no PM's saying hey thanks for bringing that to our attention (not anymore). Heck even our ol' buddy Mr. Nospellum from a own named for a Scandanavian country in Michigan is back to his old level of poor usage and articulation of the English language (after REPEATED warnings). Apparantly people don't care anymore.

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    Fo rizzle ;D

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    It must be raining all over the world and you guys can't ride and have nothing else to do, right?
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    Contrary to what you believe, you have not battled with the Moderators about spelling. Rather, you have informed us as to what you consider AOL'ese.

    I'm going to clarify this so that people understand what we consider to be "consistent use of AOL'ese".

    When someone uses "ur", "R", "l8r", etc. in their posts, we do not consider this excessive AOL'ese. Kindly take note of this and know that we do not consider this excessive or disruptive.

    What is disruptive use of AOL'ese? When there is so much AOL'ese that it is difficult to read through and comprehend the post. When one makes a report, the first thing the moderators do is take the time to read through the offending post to determine the extent of the infraction. If there is a situation that we view as excessive, at that point, we will dispatch a PM to all parties involved and rectify the situation in as timely a manner as possible.

    If we determine the language is NOT disruptive, we do NOT dispatch a PM to the parties- it serves no purpose for us to go running after people for something that is not a problem. The point of moderating is for us to work to rectify what is WRONG, not what is FINE. So, please do not expect a PM every time you send us a report on what you consider to be a major violation, when several of us determine that it is not. We take a lot of time out of our day to police the forum and read through as many posts as possible, address issues, and of course, post for ourselves. We simply do not have the time to deal with nit-picking.

    Having said all that, I make a personal point of dispatching a PM to all parties whenever I perform any advanced moderation- that is, anything beyond moving posts. The only time I didn't is when I spent almost three hours yesterday morning dealing with a spammer who decided to register multiple times and post sexually offensive material and pictures on the forum. I was aware of the reports coming in, and between policing the welcome team and the welcomes, plus monitoring the newbies and tracking their posts as they came through, then banning the offenders, then deleting and trashing the subsequent posts, only to find that while I was doing that, he was re-registering and doing the same thing all over again, leaving me to again perform the same actions, all while trying to get ready for work (I couldn't), work on my contracts for my independent contractor work (didn't get done and was due that day), and make breakfast before I left (I never got a chance to eat that morning due to the fact that I was busy banning, monitoring, and policing as fast as I could nonstop for three hours)- there was no time to send a PM to those members that reported the pervert to the moderators. There were not any other moderators online that morning, so I was left to fend as best as I could, and hopefully, I did a good enough job so that there was minimal damage from this idiot being on our forums. That's the only time I haven't followed through. I expect that the other moderators also send PMs when they perform moderator functions. I don't know for sure, but we do remind each other to do send a PM out once they perform a moderating duty.

    For the record, if you haven't heard back from us, and you still see the post online, it is because we do not consider the contents of the post excessive. There's no real litmus test for us to determine what is excessive, but if we can generally read it, then we're going to leave it. We are not spelling teachers, and we don't expect everyone to be perfect.

    Having said that, as a English major (BA in Rhetoric), I'm sure a lot of people know my general anal retentiveness towards spelling- however, I need to realize that there are extenuating circumstances as to what's going on with someone when they mis-spell. I also realize that not everyone is perfect, not everyone has time to check, there may be keyboard problems we aren't aware of, and people may need to abbreviate every now and then if they don't have time to spell everything out. I cannot expect everyone to spell check everything out either- we can suggest strongly, but it is up to the people posting to take the time to realize that to be taken seriously, they will need to look somewhat intelligent, and if they decide not to use this option, do not be surprised if other members react negatively to a post. Moderators will step in as we see necessary, and until then, we just advise people to use good common sense and do the best they can.

    I understand that members who donate have a spell check option when they post. I urge them to use it if they are unsure about a word. If you are not a donating member, there are different websites with free dictionary checkers on the site- I use www.dictionary.com and it is a wonderful resource. If you'd rather find your own dictionary, do a check in one of the search engines for one you can use- bookmark it in your favorites and use it as you see fit.

    Raiyn, you are not battling moderators. We are on the side of the members. We are here to help, and I fail to see how that is "battling". If you are frustrated with the lack of response from your reports with regards to AOL'ese, I urge you to go back and read my post two more times so that you are clear as to why there is no PM waiting in your box every time you generate a report. Know that we will respond only if we act, and that if you do not receive a PM, it is because we choose not to act. In that sense, there is no battle- because WE decide what stays and what goes. We are not dictated to as to what members think should stay or go. Rather, we respond to what members think should stay or go with discussion, and then we come to a consensus and decide who will act.

    People, just do the best you can.

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    After some serious thought, I have decided that I enjoy seeing misspelled words and bad grammer here on the forum.

    Yes, some of us are highly educated, some are old and wise, but some even ride BMX.

    If their spelling and grammer is great...nice, if it isn't and they are still able to communicate about the wonderful world of bicycles...fantastic.

    I had rather read an honest question or comment about bicycles than a tirade about grammer.

    Some might need to investigate the availability of a GRAMMERFORUM.NET or SPELLINGFORUM.NET.

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    Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. **** is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.




    I too am always amazed by others' spelling in these forums.

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    Let me translate:

    Crnrtaoy to what you bievlee, you have not betaltd wtih the Motrdaroes aoubt silpenlg. Rehatr, you have inefmrod us as to waht you cneidosr AOs'Lee.

    I'm ginog to cifrlay this so taht polepe undanrsted what we cidonesr to be "cnoissntet use of ALes'Oe".

    Wehn soonmee uess "ur", "R", "l8r", etc. in teihr pstos, we do not codesnir **** esxcesive AL'Oese. Kldniy take ntoe of this and konw taht we do not csodeinr **** evexssice or dtsviurpie.

    What is dvtiuipsre use of AsO'Lee? When there is so mcuh A'OeLse taht it is diclfifut to read thrguoh and cmeprehond the post. Wehn one maeks a rpeort, the first thing the mtaodrreos do is take the tmie to raed tgouhrh the oienfdfng post to dmienerte the eextnt of the icitafronn. If tehre is a soiaiuttn that we veiw as exesicsve, at taht pniot, we will dctapish a PM to all peirtas iovnelvd and rcietfy the satotiuin in as tielmy a mneanr as psiblose.

    If we dineermte the lagnague is NOT dvsiiuptre, we do NOT dtasipch a PM to the ptrieas- it sveres no pusorpe for us to go rnuinng after ppleoe for senhtmiog taht is not a prloebm. The pinot of maierdtong is for us to wrok to rfcetiy waht is WNORG, not what is FINE. So, psaele do not ecxpet a PM ervey time you send us a rorpet on what you censidor to be a moajr voltiioan, when seaevrl of us dtinemree that it is not. We take a lot of time out of our day to plioce the fourm and raed trouhgh as mnay ptsos as psolbsie, adedsrs iusses, and of corsue, post for oeslurves. We slmpiy do not have the time to dael with ntpi-kicing.


    Hvinag said all taht, I make a psnorael piont of dniitphascg a PM to all piartes wevenehr I peorfrm any aecnavdd mideaotron- taht is, anyhntig beynod moinvg ptoss. The only tmie I dni'dt is wehn I senpt alsmot trhee hrous yseaertdy mironng denilag with a smepmar who dediecd to rgeestir mpilltue teims and psot sxaleuly onsfievfe miaretal and peiutrcs on the fruom. I was arawe of the rteoprs cmnoig in, and bweeten plinicog the wceomle taem and the wocmeels, plus mniontiorg the neewibs and takrnicg thier psots as they came trugohh, tehn bnianng the ofrefdens, then denlteig and thsainrg the seqsuenubt ptsos, only to find taht wihle I was donig taht, he was rgi-ertseenirg and dnoig the same thing all over again, lanievg me to aaign poferrm the same anitocs, all wlhie tirnyg to get rdaey for wrok (I cdlu'ont), wrok on my cratoctns for my ieeepnndndt conroattcr wrok (din'dt get done and was due taht day), and mkae bsreafkat borfee I left (I never got a chance to eat taht minrong due to the fcat taht I was busy bnannig, mtiooninrg, and plicinog as fsat as I cluod nosontp for tehre hruos)- trehe was no tmie to sned a PM to toshe mrmebes taht roeertpd the prevert to the mdorteoras. There wree not any oehtr mrtoeodars onlnie that mrionng, so I was lfet to fned as best as I cloud, and hlepufoly, I did a good eugonh job so that trehe was mmainil daagme form this ioidt bieng on our fmuros. T'hats the only time I hv'naet flelowod tuoghrh. I expect taht the otehr mtdoeroars aslo sned PMs wehn tehy pefrorm mroatoder ftnnoicus. I d'not konw for srue, but we do rimend each otehr to do send a PM out once tehy pofrerm a mtrioandeg duty.

    For the rcerod, if you hnav'et hraed back form us, and you still see the post oinnle, it is bcsuaee we do not cedsionr the cnteotns of the psot esisecxve. Tehre's no rael ltiums test for us to dntiremee waht is eecvssxie, but if we can gerlnelay raed it, then we're giong to lavee it. We are not spillneg terahces, and we dno't ecexpt eonyvere to be pefrcet.

    Hvanig siad taht, as a Eingslh mjoar (BA in Rtheoric), I'm srue a lot of ppolee konw my geeranl aanl rnvteietenses twoadrs splileng- hoewver, I need to rlaieze taht there are eentxtauing cnmrtuiccases as to waht's gniog on wtih soenmoe wehn they mss-pelil. I aslo rzeiale that not eyrnvoee is pcerfet, not envoyree has tmie to cchek, there may be koaeyrbd peolmbrs we anre't awrae of, and popele may need to aibbtrevae ervey now and then if tehy d'ont hvae tmie to spell eethnivryg out. I cnanot epcxet ervnyeoe to selpl chcek ertvienyhg out eteihr- we can sgguset sntrgoly, but it is up to the ppolee pistong to tkae the tmie to rliezae taht to be taken sloeiursy, tehy wlil need to look shemwaot ietnlgenilt, and if they dedice not to use **** option, do not be srsrpeuid if oehtr mbmeres rcaet niteaelvgy to a post. Mrtaeorods wlil setp in as we see nsasecrey, and utnil then, we just avside polepe to use good cmomon ssnee and do the best tehy can.

    I ueannrdtsd taht meebmrs who dtanoe have a sepll chcek opiotn when tehy post. I ugre tehm to use it if tehy are unruse about a word. If you are not a dantinog mbemer, there are dreeffnit witebses with fere dcoitinray cekrcehs on the site- I use wnwc.itocdywori.am and it is a wnuroedfl rsocuere. If yuo'd ratehr fnid your own dcoitniary, do a cchek in one of the sraceh eniengs for one you can use- bakrmook it in your feoavtirs and use it as you see fit.

    Ryian, you are not bnliattg marooedrts. We are on the sdie of the mmerbes. We are hree to hlep, and I fail to see how taht is "bltiatng". If you are fattesrrud wtih the lcak of rsopsene form yuor rtepors wtih radergs to AeO'Lse, I urge you to go bcak and read my psot two more temis so taht you are caelr as to why tehre is no PM witaing in your box evrey tmie you gretnaee a report. Konw that we wlil repsnod olny if we act, and that if you do not rcieeve a PM, it is baescue we csoohe not to act. In that snsee, tehre is no blatte- bsaucee WE decide what styas and waht geos. We are not dtactied to as to what mrebmes thnik sulhod saty or go. Rheatr, we renspod to waht mbemres think sholud saty or go with dsuoiiscsn, and then we cmoe to a cssounnes and ddecie who wlil act.

    Pleope, just do the bset you can .

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    Mr. Boewn......I jsut did a saecrh of yuor last dzeon or so psotnigs and fuond yuo've mdae at laest 50 spllenig eorros! Shmae on yuo!

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    Let me see here. Yes this thing does work, thanks Joe.
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    Originally posted by MKRG
    Fo rizzle ;D

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    I think we should stop all of this.

    Please remember, the forum is international.. we speak different languages..
    Some of us are english professors, some teachers, some still studying, etc., I think we all try to do the best we can.

    Consider this, not all who enjoys riding bikes are english gurus..

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    my record is cleaner than many, i have been careful lately after noticing i was typing, and i cant believe you actually went through my last 50 posts.

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    I would have bet anything this was one of those threads i start and everyone ignores.

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    "a English major", Koffee?

    Surely "an".

    I don't mind the occasional spelling error. I normally type while on hold so use only one hand. I try to correct if I can be bothered.

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    you know, when i was a mod, i made a point of not changing misspelled subject headings. i though it would be more offensive to the original poster than to just let it go. sometimes, that's what you have to do.

    me? i write in l/c here. that bothers some people, i know. and if they want to think i have poor writing skills, that's okay. at the end of the day, they just have to suck it up.
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    chewa, were you replying to a message from koffee brown on this thread? did she find it so embarassing that she chose to delete it?
    when walking, just walk. when sitting, just sit. when riding, just ride. above all, don't wobble.

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    No, it is not embarrassing at all. I responded to this post as a moderator, and it is on page 1.

    I made no spelling error- in my haste to finish my post before going to bed, I made a grammar error instead. Hence, one of the reasons why we don't lose our damn minds every time there is an error made by someone who posts- you never know what the situation is surrounding the person's error. Let it be.

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    I made no spelling error- in my haste to finish my post before going to bed, I made a grammar error instead.
    .... a grammatical error?

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    The paomnnehil pweor of the hmuan mnid.

    Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae.

    The rset can be a total mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. **** is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.


    ...and it makes the "search" function quite useless...

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