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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Why do men feel they need to lie about their height? One of the first questions I ask someone when I'm fitting them for a new bike is their height just to get a rough idea of where to start. Most men add at least a couple of inches. The best one was just the other day, I asked and he replied 5'10.5". I'm 5'8" and may be even slightly taller than him. Probably had a 30" inseam. I put him on a bike that he could hardly raise his leg over. When his privates were being squished by the top tube I think he may have gotten the idea. It's quite funny actually.
    optimistic thinking, pure and simple. Don't be surprised if people overestimate their height by the odd couple of centimetres.

    Would you rather think of yourself as 5.5" or 6"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus View Post
    optimistic thinking, pure and simple. Don't be surprised if people overestimate their height by the odd couple of centimetres.

    Would you rather think of yourself as 5.5" or 6"?
    9"?

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    Someone who seriously believes he is taller than he really is, should perhaps be checked for bone loss or scoliosis. I learned during an x-ray for injured ribs that I have scoliosis and kiphosis, causing my spine to be out of its normal shape in multiple directions. It also explained why I get muscle aches in my upper back, as equal effort on both sides does not result in equal muscle use on both sides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Why do men feel they need to lie about their height? One of the first questions I ask someone when I'm fitting them for a new bike is their height just to get a rough idea of where to start. Most men add at least a couple of inches. The best one was just the other day, I asked and he replied 5'10.5". I'm 5'8" and may be even slightly taller than him. Probably had a 30" inseam. I put him on a bike that he could hardly raise his leg over. When his privates were being squished by the top tube I think he may have gotten the idea. It's quite funny actually.
    Well, we are shorter in the evening the variation can be as much as an inch. We do not all have the same proportions either. My pant leg is 30, my height first thing in the morning if I stand tall is 5'11" (I find that a bike a couple of inches too tall by modern standards is a lot more comfortable to ride, and I ride it a lot more than I stand around with it between my legs). A couple of years back I was 5'9", but that was because I could not straighten up all the way. BTW anyone who insist on saying the are something.5" has an inferiority complex about it.

    Now to address your psych problems, why do you want to know what someone thinks their height is? Now knowing what their pants inseam is should tell you with in an inch what size bike to show him, if you note where his cuff line is. His height is meaningless he could have a long torso and short legs like me, or the opposite like many other people. It to me sounds like you feel height challenged yourself.
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    [QUOTE=graywolf;6060356)

    Now to address your psych problems, why do you want to know what someone thinks their height is? Now knowing what their pants inseam is should tell you with in an inch what size bike to show him, if you note where his cuff line is. His height is meaningless he could have a long torso and short legs like me, or the opposite like many other people. It to me sounds like you feel height challenged yourself.[/QUOTE]

    How can you even suggest that height would not come into play when fitting a bike. Every bike manufacturer in world could make a bike that has a 19" seat tube with top tubes of various lenghts. Your stating that how long someones torso is does not matter. Okay then.

    I asked a very simple question. Why do men feel they need to lie about their height? I've sold bikes to many woman. I cannot recall a single instance in which they stretched the truth

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    [quote=graywolf;6060356)

    Now to address your psych problems, why do you want to know what someone thinks their height is? Now knowing what their pants inseam is should tell you with in an inch what size bike to show him, if you note where his cuff line is. His height is meaningless he could have a long torso and short legs like me, or the opposite like many other people. It to me sounds like you feel height challenged yourself.[/QUOTE]

    How can you even suggest that height would not come into play when fitting a bike. Every bike manufacturer in world could make a bike that has a 19" seat tube with top tubes of various lengths. How long the top tube measures is critical. Your stating that someone's height would not matter beyond beyond stand over height? Okay then.

    I asked a very simple and direct question in the first line of my first post. I've sold bikes to many woman. I cannot recall a single instance in which they stretched the truth about their height.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    If you are going to bull**** me right to my face I'm going to call you on it every time regardless of where the event takes place. I'll tell you what. I'll start a thread about jackass customers to give you something to read
    You must be one of the jackass LBS's we hear so much about

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    Most men add at least a couple of inches.
    Not me! 12" and I ain't lyin'!

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    I subtract.
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    Amusing. Painting all men with a "need to lie" brush. What an ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    How can you even suggest that height would not come into play when fitting a bike. Every bike manufacturer in world could make a bike that has a 19" seat tube with top tubes of various lenghts. Your stating that how long someones torso is does not matter. Okay then.

    I asked a very simple question. Why do men feel they need to lie about their height? I've sold bikes to many woman. I cannot recall a single instance in which they stretched the truth
    there is not such a negative stigma to being a short woman as there is to being a short man. why is this patently obvious fact escaping you?
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    I think I've shrunk, but I havne't measured myself for a long time. I still say 6', although I suspect I'm more like 5'11" now.
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    I guess i'm probably one of the shorter men around at somewhere around 5'2. I do know that a lot of people have issues with their height, but that is not one of my problems. I just purchased a new road bike this weekend and I was very honest when talking to the guys at my LBS. We went over several options including possibly looking at taking a WSD model and increasing the stem length, but in the end I found a Cannondale Carbon Synapse SL that was a 47cm size and it fit great!

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    Every I.D. I've ever had said 6ft on it. When I was in the military they measured my height and said I was 6ft. A couple years ago I went for a physical and the doctor said 5' 11 and a 1/2. Now honestly...when someone asks me how tall I am...I'm going to say 6ft because it's easier to say than 5'11 and a half. And no one is really going to measure me and say "Hey man! You a half a inch short!"
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    what is 6 feet tall in cm? Is that number also the holy grail for height in europe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddle Up View Post
    .5" okay I'll give him that. 2.5" I don't think so. It really happens a lot regardless of how tall the sales person or customer is.
    The answer I was thinking of was in show height vrs. barefoot. But the 2.5 inches you cite is just too much to account for by any reasonable idea and too little for the crude joke.

    Oh wait I've come up with a variation. His adjustment factor for measuring some other body part is a fixed number of inches, not a percentage, so he just made a mistake and used that factor for height.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiPHRaPH View Post
    what is 6 feet tall in cm? Is that number also the holy grail for height in europe?
    182.88. I kind of think that 6ft in the US and 180cm in Europe is considered the dividing point between normal and tall men by most folks.
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    I'm 6'2.5". I've always said I'm 6'2". Now that I've read your posts about shrinking with age, I might be right on!

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    I've never lied about my height and I'm height challenged. Seriously, I'm 5' 7-1/4" and have never claimed the extra 1/4". Of course, now at almost 57 years of age, I might finally be 5'7" or shorter.
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    When I get home tonight I'm going to measure myself. I always thought I was 6'2". I'm sure I was when I was younger -- I remember being measured with accurate equipment at doctor's offices and by my college basketball coach. Now, after reading this thread, and at 48 years old, I'm not so sure. . .

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    How about lying about height, saying that you are shorter then really are. My son is 6'5" or 6'6" and he always says he is under 6'4". My mother-in-law always said she was 5'12", never 6'. I guess when you are really tall you want to be shorter, and when your shorter, you want to be taller. I do notice that as I age, any "cool" factor about being a giant really starts to wane. I don't fit in cars,planes,chairs, etc. I really am starting to feel that I just take up too much room.

    Just thought I would point out another perspective.
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    If you are 6' and .6" are you 6 ' or 6' 1"?

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    I am a hair shorter than 6'1" so I say I am 6'1" since I am when I have shoes on, which is the only time people ask me. Plus it is easier than saying 6' and 3/4"

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    If customer service is the name of your game, how about measuring the customer's height for yourself especially if you think all male customers cannot come clean about it and are alike? That way you'll always be able to qualify the fit for them without the inconvenience of their "lies". It's easy enough to hang or attach a printed scale on a wall.
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    I am a man. I lie about my height.

    But because it's easier. I say I'm 6 feet tall, though I'm like 1/2-1" less (I don't remember). Saying 6 ft is faster than saying 5 feet 11 and a half inches

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