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Old 02-15-08, 09:40 PM   #1
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Pashley - Hand Built Versus Hand Made

I have noted that Pashley describes some of their bikes as, "hand built." What is the difference between "hand built" and "hand made?" I'm looking into buying the Pashley Roadster (Classic or Sovereign) but, may switch to a similar design Dutch bike (advertised as "hand made.") Your comments would be appreciated.
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Pashley are a bike manufacturer (measured 10,000s) that aren't using robots (lots of jigs though) as are a lot of Dutch bikes. There is no 'mandated' difference between hand built and hand made, just what the marketing guy thought sounded better.
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...There is no 'mandated' difference between hand built and hand made, just what the marketing guy thought sounded better.
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If in any doubt give Condor Cycles a call as they should be able to talk you through and they're a pashley dealer

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Although I would rate a Hand Built- or Hand Made- item over any Robotic Factory made bulk unit- There is a lot to be said for going quality. Pashley make some very fine bikes and you cannot fault the quality of their frames. Unfortunately- It is old Technology. Modern "Qualty" frames are Good. They have years of development behind them. And thanks to the competitive nature of Cycling- That development is up to the minute on the latest requirements of design and technology.

I can think of a couple of Manufacturers that make good quality hand built bikes. Pashley and Thorn both spring to mind. They make fine bikes- Of the "Old" School. Bit on the heavy side- Trusted materials- but even materials have developed over the years. I know it depends on the use you want to put a bike to- but I would look to a higher quality "Mass" produced bike to give you a comparison on how bikes have developed into lighter and more efficient machines in the last few years.
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'Hand Made" in itself is not necessarily a good thing. You'll see some goods from India that are hand-made when they shouldn't have been. And some awfully fine precision work is done without being touched by hands. I don't care if they file it out of a solid block of steel by hand or beam it out of a Star Trek transporter as long as it meets my expectations.
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