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    Raleigh Sojourn VS Jamis Coda Elite Sizing

    For those of you willing to indulge me, please visit the Raleigh Sojourn and Jamis Coda Elite pages and tell me what you think is the best match of Sojourn size to the 21.5 Coda Elite size...


    http://www.raleighusa.com/items.asp?deptid=5&itemid=427

    http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...codaelite.html
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    Your link to the Coda isn't working.

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    You'd want to try a 55 or 57 in the Raleigh.

    It's kind of like comparing apples to oranges though. The Jamis is a 25ish pound, flat-barred, high-end hybrid, while the Raleigh is a 34ish pound, drop-barred, low-end, touring bike.

    Correct Jamis link is: http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...codaelite.html
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    can you suggest some high end touring bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddarhead View Post
    can you suggest some high end touring bikes?
    What's your price range?

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    I'm liking steel and disc brakes. I can go up to a few g's.

    The Coda looks a lot like the Sojourn geometry. I would say a half of degree on the headset side is the only difference. The Coda seems more like road bike geometry than hybrid...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddarhead View Post
    can you suggest some high end touring bikes?
    Co-Motion Americano or Nor'wester
    Bruce Gordon BLT or Rock-n-Road
    Roberts Transcontinental or Roughstuff
    Dawes Super Galaxy or Ultra Galaxy
    Rivendell Atlantis
    Thorn EXP
    Bob Jackson World Tour
    Marinoni Turismo
    Koga GlobeTraveller
    Cannondale T2000
    Surly LHT
    Trek 520
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    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddarhead View Post
    I'm liking steel and disc brakes. I can go up to a few g's.

    The Coda looks a lot like the Sojourn geometry. I would say a half of degree on the headset side is the only difference. The Coda seems more like road bike geometry than hybrid...
    There are few true touring bikes with disc brakes. I have a Kona Sutra which I use as a winter commuter, and hate for a host of reasons. If you are interested why a search will turn up some threads on it.

    The other bike which comes to mind is the Marinoni Turismo Extreme. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/Html/TurismoExtreme.html

    Why do you think you need disc brakes on your touring bike?

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    I find the disc's more consistent/reliable/quiet and adjustments last a whole lot longer. My experience is based on Avid BB7's. I have them on my Coda Elite with well over 10K on it I finally replaced the pads and they had a mm or slightly more left on them according to the instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheddarhead View Post
    I find the disc's more consistent/reliable/quiet and adjustments last a whole lot longer. My experience is based on Avid BB7's. I have them on my Coda Elite with well over 10K on it I finally replaced the pads and they had a mm or slightly more left on them according to the instructions.
    If you plan to do touring you'll find that rim brakes are much better due to ease of use, ability to attach a rack, finding replacement parts, and ease of adjustment.

    You must not do a lot of braking if you got 10K (miles?) out of set of pads. I get 2500 km at best from my BB7s before it's time to replace the pads.

    Check out some threads in the touring forum for more on this debate.

    If you are willing to forgo the disc brakes check out the Surly Long Haul Trucker, it's the best deal around for serious touring. I love mine. It can be bought either as a complete bike or just a frame set.

    http://www.surlybikes.com/longhaul.html

    http://www.surlybikes.com/lht_comp.html

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    Not high end,but I'm totally loving my Safari:
    http://www.rei.com/product/730480?vcat=REI_SEARCH

    Only complaint was the stock twistgrip shifters,which I swapped for SRAM double thumbs.

    And I completely disagree with Ziemas. A front disc may limit your choices for a rack,but they are out there. And disc pads are way easier to change,last longer,and require fewer adjustments than rim brake pads. Disc pads are adjusted in and out,that's it. Rim pads are adjusted in/out,up/down(height),cant(twisting the pad to line up with the rim),and for toe-in. They also don't care if your rims are perfectly true,and you don't have to open/close(or forget to) them when removing a wheel.

    C'dale BBU('05 and '09)/Super Six/Hooligan8and 3,Kona Dew Deluxe,Novara Buzz/Safari,Surly Big Dummy,Marin Pt Reyes,Giant Defy 1,Schwinn DBX SuperSport/Qualifier,Dahon Speed Pro TT,Brompton S6L

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