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Old 02-18-08, 12:53 PM   #1
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Raleigh Sojourn VS Jamis Coda Elite Sizing

For those of you willing to indulge me, please visit the Raleigh Sojourn and Jamis Coda Elite pages and tell me what you think is the best match of Sojourn size to the 21.5 Coda Elite size...


http://www.raleighusa.com/items.asp?deptid=5&itemid=427

http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...codaelite.html

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Old 02-18-08, 12:58 PM   #2
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Your link to the Coda isn't working.
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You'd want to try a 55 or 57 in the Raleigh.

It's kind of like comparing apples to oranges though. The Jamis is a 25ish pound, flat-barred, high-end hybrid, while the Raleigh is a 34ish pound, drop-barred, low-end, touring bike.

Correct Jamis link is: http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/bikes/...codaelite.html
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can you suggest some high end touring bikes?
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can you suggest some high end touring bikes?
What's your price range?
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I'm liking steel and disc brakes. I can go up to a few g's.

The Coda looks a lot like the Sojourn geometry. I would say a half of degree on the headset side is the only difference. The Coda seems more like road bike geometry than hybrid...
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can you suggest some high end touring bikes?
Co-Motion Americano or Nor'wester
Bruce Gordon BLT or Rock-n-Road
Roberts Transcontinental or Roughstuff
Dawes Super Galaxy or Ultra Galaxy
Rivendell Atlantis
Thorn EXP
Bob Jackson World Tour
Marinoni Turismo
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Cannondale T2000
Surly LHT
Trek 520
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I'm liking steel and disc brakes. I can go up to a few g's.

The Coda looks a lot like the Sojourn geometry. I would say a half of degree on the headset side is the only difference. The Coda seems more like road bike geometry than hybrid...
There are few true touring bikes with disc brakes. I have a Kona Sutra which I use as a winter commuter, and hate for a host of reasons. If you are interested why a search will turn up some threads on it.

The other bike which comes to mind is the Marinoni Turismo Extreme. http://www.marinoni.qc.ca/Html/TurismoExtreme.html

Why do you think you need disc brakes on your touring bike?
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I find the disc's more consistent/reliable/quiet and adjustments last a whole lot longer. My experience is based on Avid BB7's. I have them on my Coda Elite with well over 10K on it I finally replaced the pads and they had a mm or slightly more left on them according to the instructions.
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I find the disc's more consistent/reliable/quiet and adjustments last a whole lot longer. My experience is based on Avid BB7's. I have them on my Coda Elite with well over 10K on it I finally replaced the pads and they had a mm or slightly more left on them according to the instructions.
If you plan to do touring you'll find that rim brakes are much better due to ease of use, ability to attach a rack, finding replacement parts, and ease of adjustment.

You must not do a lot of braking if you got 10K (miles?) out of set of pads. I get 2500 km at best from my BB7s before it's time to replace the pads.

Check out some threads in the touring forum for more on this debate.

If you are willing to forgo the disc brakes check out the Surly Long Haul Trucker, it's the best deal around for serious touring. I love mine. It can be bought either as a complete bike or just a frame set.

http://www.surlybikes.com/longhaul.html

http://www.surlybikes.com/lht_comp.html
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Not high end,but I'm totally loving my Safari:
http://www.rei.com/product/730480?vcat=REI_SEARCH

Only complaint was the stock twistgrip shifters,which I swapped for SRAM double thumbs.

And I completely disagree with Ziemas. A front disc may limit your choices for a rack,but they are out there. And disc pads are way easier to change,last longer,and require fewer adjustments than rim brake pads. Disc pads are adjusted in and out,that's it. Rim pads are adjusted in/out,up/down(height),cant(twisting the pad to line up with the rim),and for toe-in. They also don't care if your rims are perfectly true,and you don't have to open/close(or forget to) them when removing a wheel.
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