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View Poll Results: Which One (Price no Object) ?
Batavus (Dutch classic style) 2 13.33%
Electra Amsterdam 3 20.00%
Pashley Roadster Sovereign 9 60.00%
Biria Dutch Classic Series 1 6.67%
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Old 02-22-08, 10:49 AM   #1
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Dutch Style Classic Bicycles

I can't make up my mind about which of the following dutch style classic bicycles I want to buy. I've tried only the Batavus (the others are not readily available to me) and they are all in my price range:

1. Batavus (can't remember the model name)
2. Electra (Amsterdam)
3. Pashley (Roadster Sovereign)
4. Biria (Dutch Classic Series)

I would like to know YOUR choice and your reason(s).

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Old 02-22-08, 12:44 PM   #2
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Other things being equal, I'd go with the Pashley. They show a double-bar bike, but don't reference it in the text, but that's what i'd like. I don't see an advantage of the Sovereign over the Classic right off hand, though.

Why? I haven't ridden any of them and that one just sounds and looks cooler to me.
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Had a Pashley PDQ a few years ago. Very similar to my current lowracer, this Dutch made Challenge Hurricane.
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I would go with the Pashley.They have been making bikes since the 20s and have a good reputation.You ask anyone who had/has one and they'll just go on and on and on about how great it is.About the only negative thing I heard was some models are heavy.
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I would go with the Pashley.They have been making bikes since the 20s and have a good reputation.You ask anyone who had/has one and they'll just go on and on and on about how great it is.About the only negative thing I heard was some models are heavy.
This is my main concern about this style of Bike. The bikes do not seem to have a particular niche- unless you count it as Bike to ride round town and do errands with. And there are better quality bikes around that are lighter and better suited for this purpose aswell.
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That is a link to a Biria (rebranded as Estelle by Heinzmann) that I bought for my father.
It's built like a tank. The one and only problem it's had is the stem becomes loose and has to be tightened about once every other month.
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Are these actual Dutch bikes, or just city bikes? A real Dutch bike comes with it's own ignition-style lock (i.e. no key, no rolling), a generator for the lightS that doesn't make it feel like you're pedaling up a 12% grade, DRUM brakes, and Scotchbrite whitewalls that reflect brilliantly. I'm assuming all these choices at least have an enclosed chain and kick-@$$ fenders?
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I bought my wife a Pashley Princess ( Also known as a "Jessica Fletcher" after the TV show" Murder She Wrote" in which the bike is the star's primary mode of transport: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeaCyE9KZAQ ) Very sturdy and lighter than it looks, I bought for her it 13 years ago. 1000's of miles on it now.
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...I would like to know YOUR choice and your reason(s).

Thanks
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I would go with the Pashley.They have been making bikes since the 20s and have a good reputation.You ask anyone who had/has one and they'll just go on and on and on about how great it is.About the only negative thing I heard was some models are heavy.
I think the heavier models are the Backfiets and other utility-type models.The Roadster is made with Cro-Mo so it's lighter than it looks.
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Another Choice But, Who Has One?

I received an email suggesting another possible choice - a vintage Raleigh Tourist (DL-1). I previously thought about that but, couldn't find a complete one in very good condition. I've been watching CL and Ebay. Anybody have one for sale or know where I can find one (other than going to England from the U.S.)? I would be seriously interested in one (PM me if you would like, it would be appreciated.) Thanks
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