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Old 02-23-08, 07:25 PM   #1
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Looking for a Hybrid for New York City riding

My wife and I were recently was in San Francisco and rented a couple amazing bike. They were Marin - San Anselmo's. They were hardtail with disc brakes. Riding the bikes got us both very interested in buying one for each of us. I looked on the Marin website and found the bike, but it didn't have the disc brakes so I wonder if the bike rental place had them custom ordered I have an email waiting for a reply at Marin right now to find out. But my real question is, we'd like to own a great Hybrid bike for use here in NYC. The roads can be rough with a lot of pot holes. I'll never be off road with it so we'd like them to be as fast an easy as possible to get around in the parks and streets. I'll want it to be as light as possible since we'll both be carrying them up and down subway stairs frequently. We really liked the Hybrid design since we can sit upright. The disc brakes seems extremely sturdy and the front shock seemed to really smooth the ride. Does anyone have any suggestions about Marin or other bikes that fit this mold?

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Old 02-23-08, 09:47 PM   #2
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(sorry if this is a duplicate post. BikeForums ate my first one)
I have a Kona Dew FS I commute on. It's a hybrid with front suspension, disk breaks, and a suspension seat post.

I carry it up three flights of stairs, so I guess it's light enough. Keep in mind that it's the only bike I've owned, so I have nothing to compare it to.

I think the suspension makes it nice and comfy. But a lot of folks think that suspension is unnecessary on streets and will only slow you down, and I am SLOOOOOOOOW.

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Old 02-24-08, 02:18 AM   #3
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Here's a selection that a lot of people find versatile and they come with disc brakes.

trek portland - http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...land/portland/

cannondale cross xr7 - http://www.cannondale.com/bikes/08/c...del-8XR7C.html

Brodie Ronin '08 - http://www.brodiebikes.com/2008/2008_bikes/ronin.php
Brodie romax '07 - http://www.brodiebikes.com/2007/2007_bikes/romax.php
brodie ronin '07 - http://www.brodiebikes.com/2007/2007_bikes/ronin.php

lemond poprad disc - http://www.lemondbikes.com/bikes/cross/poprad_disc.php

rocky mountain sherpa - http://www.bikes.com/bikes/2007/TOURING/sherpa-10.aspx

kona sutra - http://www.konaworld.com/08_sutra_w.htm

orbea diem drop disc - http://www.orbea.com/ingles/interior...ilia=6&gama=13

focus cross disc - http://www.focusbikesuk.com/focuscyc...cross_disc.php

devinci caribou2 - http://www.devinci.com/10479_an.html

raleighusa sojourn - http://www.raleighusa.com/items.asp?deptid=5&itemid=427

rei novara element - http://www.rei.com/product/744808

co-motion mazama - http://www.co-motion.com/mazama.html

rocky mountain Solo CXD - http://bikes.com/2008_preview/2008_preview.html

rotwild rs1cx - http://www.rotwild.de/en/ (street bikes section)

fixie inc. pureblood - http://www.cycles-for-heroes.com/200...pureblood.html

maxx roadmaxx custom (you choose the color and parts at the LBS and the factory puts it together, i.e., not a custom frame) - http://www.maxx.de/frmain_bikes.htm (road - roadmaxx custom)

Salsa la Cruz - http://www.salsacycles.com/laCruzComp08.html
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Those bikes are a bit too advanced and pricey for me at the moment. I did notice the Giant Cypress DX. Seemed to have what I was looking for at a very reasonable price tag. I'd rather spend more to get something of quality. Do you think the Giant Cypress DX is a good bike? It has a lot to offer at the price so it makes me wonder if the quality is there.
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Giant's are a good brand, def a good option.
But, it wouldn't hurt to consider Trek 7.x Fx model.
They are reliable, comfy to ride & are capable of longish distances if required.
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The trek bikes are great but they sure are a lot more expensive then the Giant's. The one thing I don't like about the Giant are the grip shifters. I have that on a bike I currently have and I don't favor it. Is it possible to switch the type of shifter to a trigger if I decided to go with a Giant?
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Not to be a shill but here's the obligatory link to bikesdirect.com

No disc hybrids but you can get a bunch of good disc bikes for under 400 like this

Free shipping!
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The trek bikes are great but they sure are a lot more expensive then the Giant's. The one thing I don't like about the Giant are the grip shifters. I have that on a bike I currently have and I don't favor it. Is it possible to switch the type of shifter to a trigger if I decided to go with a Giant?
I used to feel the same way about grip shifters until I rode in the cold and needed gloves. I.e. you'll find it easier to shift with gloves AND grip shifters.
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I own a Giant Cypress and I love it.

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What do you think of the front shock? Does it make a big difference? Comfort and speed are the key things I'm looking for, and I know a front shock adds weight and slows things down. But I'd rather go a bit slower if it means a nicer ride. What are your thoughts? I'll be on roads, some rough roads, but pretty much always on pavement.
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I ride a Specialized Sirrus Sport around Central Park and the UWS:

http://www.specialized.com/bc/SBCBkModel.jsp?spid=32218

The price seems to have gone up this year. I got mine a year and a half ago in NJ for maybe $500. I'm lucky in that I live near the park and I'm in an elevator building so I don't know what it's like to carry on to the subway or in a walk-up apartment, but I find it to be lighter than the Trek hybrid I used previously. No, it doesn't have a front shock or disc brakes. The only thing I've upgraded on it are the pedals - I use a Forte Campus pedal because I prefer to be clipped in for park rides but unclipped in traffic. I'm a wimp around cars in the city. http://www.performancebike.com/shop/...estore_ID=1472
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Do you think youre missing anything without the front shock? Hows the ride quality? Sounds like we'll be doing a lot of the same riding.
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Do you think youre missing anything without the front shock? Hows the ride quality? Sounds like we'll be doing a lot of the same riding.
On the front shock: No, not really, though I ride exclusively on roads and paved trails. This is not a bike for any off-road riding and I don't see the point of a shock while on roads.

Generally, I find the Sirrus to be a better-than-average recreational / workout bike. The road bikes fly by me but I'm not trying to be in the same league with them, either.
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I ride a Sedona DX. Basically the same as a Cypress only with 26" wheels.

I like it. I don't have the disc brakes (4 years old), but it has always ridden well.

The grip shifters actually work nice, but they can be switched if you want. It wouldn't be too expensive.

I removed the suspension fork after riding it for a couple of years, and I definitely prefer the handling with a rigid fork. I have also tightened the suspension seat post to the point where it no longer moves. Still a comfortable riding bike. I think the suspension fork and seatpost are useful mostly to get couch potatos onto bikes. Once riding, they served little use for me.

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About the suspension fork, does it really add much weight? Also, you didn't like the suspension seat post? Does it tend to move excessively?
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a couple of Raleigh's hybrids have a disc brake option. I ♥ my Raleigh Detour Deluxe.
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I regularly ride around NYC, DC, Baltimore, etc on an old Trek 750 hybrid with no suspension. Works just fine on the rough streets.
IMO unless I'm doing serious off-roading on a MTB, suspension isn't normally needed.
Only once did I ride a NY street where I wish I had suspension (the road surface was scraped in preparation for repaving)
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I could live without the suspension fork and I'm thinking about replacing it but its strong and I never worry about damaging it. I don't care too much about the weight of my bike and the fork does help the ride.
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I have a 2005 Giant Cypress DX, and it rides great. I routinely take it on 50mi day trips and overnights. Works great for crushed limestone trails and gravel roads, too. I appreciate the suspension on the gravel. The 2005/2006 Cypress geometry is very close to touring bikes like Trek 520, Canondale Touring, and Surly LHT.

Only problem I had was that the suspension seatpost compressed after 2,000 mi. The LBS didn't have a replacement in stock, so I just replaced it with a standard post and haven't really missed the suspension one. Only thing other thing I changed was the chainring ... switched to 22/34/44 from 28/38/48 for better hill climbing.
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About the suspension fork, does it really add much weight? Also, you didn't like the suspension seat post? Does it tend to move excessively?
I didn't remove the suspension fork to save weight, I didn't like the way my bike rode when I stood up to climb (which is pretty rare). It was like a pogo stick. The bike is a little lighter, but I don't think the swap would be worth it if weight were the only goal. The bike is still not comparable to a road bike in weight. I just like the more responsive steering... The geometry is the same, I got the suspension corrected fork, it is just that without the shocks it feels more responsive. I can't tell you whether it really is, but it feels that way to me.

As far as the suspension seat post... I weigh over 300 pounds, so basically I locked it down because it was hard to get the proper saddle height. When I was off the bike and adjusting it, the seat post was at full extension, and when I sat on it, it was near full compression. By the time I got the saddle situated high enough, it was almost too high to mount comfortably. I did allow it to do its job for a couple of years, and locked down the seat post mostly to see if I noticed a difference. I didn't. I would swap it for a standard seat post to save weight, but again, probably not worth the cost for weight savings.

The seat on my Sedona is a multi-density foam, and it is very cushioned so for me and my riding the suspension post was overkill. Were I to ride on more rough roads, I may feel differently.

When I wrote what I did, I didn't do it to discourage you from the suspension elements, just letting you know that I found that the bike rides nicely even without them... This may open the door to more bikes you are willing to look at. Again, my comments are based on my usage. The bike was fine with these elements, but to me, it was also fine without them. YMMV.
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