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Old 02-27-08, 09:49 AM   #1
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Internal Gears on Dropped-bar Bikes?

Is there such a thing as a dropped bar bicycle with a 7, 8, or 9 speed internal geared rear hub? I know the shifters that many internal gear hubs use are not really compatable with dropped bars but I feel certain I'm not the only one who thinks that an internal hub could add the lower maintainance of a single speed with the hill-climbing advantages of multiple gears.
♣ If such a bike exists in nature can someone point me in the correct direction to find one.
♣ If such a bike does not currently exist, are there reasons (other than incompatability of the shifters on the handlebars) that I'm missing?

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http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/bianc...os8/index.html

You have to travel to Massachusetts, but I see from your signature that you know about Sheldon...

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...You have to travel to Massachusetts...
Perfect! Thanks!

I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.

I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)
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multiple rohloff equipped drop bar bikes

http://www.rohloff.de/en/info/bikesearch/index.html

These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts. - http://www.noell-fahrradbau.de/renn.htm



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Here is one from A.N.T. with a Rolhoff hub, but I see no reason it couldn't be built with something type of hub. Also some one on the forum built up and orange bike (Schwinn IIRC) with a Nexus 8, generator hub, and drop bars as their daily do it bike.

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These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts.
What is a two piece drop bar?
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What is a two piece drop bar?
Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
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Old Trek with Nexus 8

I rebuilt an old trek 720 tour bike with one. I now use it every day for commuting, love it

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Perfect! Thanks!

I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for.
Let us know what you find out. I'm sure there is curiosity... (me for one).
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Perfect! Thanks!

I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.

I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)
I'd find myself a good old road frame with horizontal drops and have a wheel built up.
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Thanks for all the replies. I emailed Harris about the Jos8 but I have not heard back yet. I doubt I can convince the wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike but I'm considering a similar conversion on another SS bike. Raleigh Rush Hour imediatly popped into my mind, but I'm sure there are others that would make suitable canidates.

Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?
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Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
So, this two piece bar has the outside diameter of a flat bar? I guess it does since the shifter is on it.
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I ride a single-speed cruiser with coaster brake. I've noticed that normal multi-speed bikes are wider where the axle is than my cruiser. Makes sense, you've got to fit that pile of gears in. But I don't know if this causes any problems when you go sticking hub A in frame B. Something to check on at least.
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Here is the one I remembered it was just posted on another thread. Maybe PM the member and ask for the specifics.

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That is not a production bike. He used the Hubbub adapter to get the shifter on the drop bars.
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If the $200 walmart bikes can have gripshifters next to the stem on road drops, you can too.
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Will those shifters work with an internal geared hub?
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Been waiting and hoping shimano and/or sram would get there head out of their rectum and build us an OEM version of a normal roadbar shifter for gearhub use. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

On the other hand these guys are supposed to have a product ready or soon to be ready. http://jtekengineering.com/index.html Last I heard the prototype was made and undergoing testing. Give Jay a shout and report back.

If its like their other products it will work well and be inexpensive.
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Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.
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Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?
Very intuitive to use. I don't even think about it now, it is just as natural as riding my other road bike with brifters. I am really liking my Trek with hub and find myself wanting to ride it more. I even make up excuses to run errands on it.
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Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.
Sorry I don't know those bars you refer to on the SJS site. Do you have a picture saved?

Please explain why you feel the cable routing would be a problem? The brake cable on the same side as the twist shifter could be routed in almost any direction surely?
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Will those shifters work with an internal geared hub?
Not those exact shifters that come on those bikes. But gripshifters that work with internal hubs. Yes.
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But the only gripshifters I know that work with internal hubs don't fit drop bars.
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But the only gripshifters I know that work with internal hubs don't fit drop bars.
as I pointed out before, twist shifters will fit the noell fahrradbau drop handlebars

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