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    Internal Gears on Dropped-bar Bikes?

    Is there such a thing as a dropped bar bicycle with a 7, 8, or 9 speed internal geared rear hub? I know the shifters that many internal gear hubs use are not really compatable with dropped bars but I feel certain I'm not the only one who thinks that an internal hub could add the lower maintainance of a single speed with the hill-climbing advantages of multiple gears.
    ♣ If such a bike exists in nature can someone point me in the correct direction to find one.
    ♣ If such a bike does not currently exist, are there reasons (other than incompatability of the shifters on the handlebars) that I'm missing?

    Thanks!

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    http://sheldonbrown.com/harris/bianc...os8/index.html

    You have to travel to Massachusetts, but I see from your signature that you know about Sheldon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by riddei View Post
    ...You have to travel to Massachusetts...
    Perfect! Thanks!

    I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.

    I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)

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    multiple rohloff equipped drop bar bikes

    http://www.rohloff.de/en/info/bikesearch/index.html

    These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts. - http://www.noell-fahrradbau.de/renn.htm



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    Here is one from A.N.T. with a Rolhoff hub, but I see no reason it couldn't be built with something type of hub. Also some one on the forum built up and orange bike (Schwinn IIRC) with a Nexus 8, generator hub, and drop bars as their daily do it bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts.
    What is a two piece drop bar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou View Post
    What is a two piece drop bar?
    Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
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    Old Trek with Nexus 8

    I rebuilt an old trek 720 tour bike with one. I now use it every day for commuting, love it


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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan View Post
    Perfect! Thanks!

    I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for.
    Let us know what you find out. I'm sure there is curiosity... (me for one).
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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan View Post
    Perfect! Thanks!

    I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.

    I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)
    I'd find myself a good old road frame with horizontal drops and have a wheel built up.
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    Thanks for all the replies. I emailed Harris about the Jos8 but I have not heard back yet. I doubt I can convince the wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike but I'm considering a similar conversion on another SS bike. Raleigh Rush Hour imediatly popped into my mind, but I'm sure there are others that would make suitable canidates.

    Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
    So, this two piece bar has the outside diameter of a flat bar? I guess it does since the shifter is on it.

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    I ride a single-speed cruiser with coaster brake. I've noticed that normal multi-speed bikes are wider where the axle is than my cruiser. Makes sense, you've got to fit that pile of gears in. But I don't know if this causes any problems when you go sticking hub A in frame B. Something to check on at least.
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    Here is the one I remembered it was just posted on another thread. Maybe PM the member and ask for the specifics.

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    That is not a production bike. He used the Hubbub adapter to get the shifter on the drop bars.

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    If the $200 walmart bikes can have gripshifters next to the stem on road drops, you can too.
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    Will those shifters work with an internal geared hub?

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    Been waiting and hoping shimano and/or sram would get there head out of their rectum and build us an OEM version of a normal roadbar shifter for gearhub use. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.

    On the other hand these guys are supposed to have a product ready or soon to be ready. http://jtekengineering.com/index.html Last I heard the prototype was made and undergoing testing. Give Jay a shout and report back.

    If its like their other products it will work well and be inexpensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wahoonc View Post
    Here is one from A.N.T. with a Rolhoff hub, but I see no reason it couldn't be built with something type of hub. Also some one on the forum built up and orange bike (Schwinn IIRC) with a Nexus 8, generator hub, and drop bars as their daily do it bike.

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    Yes, but unfortunately the twist shifter is mounted on the stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markhr View Post
    Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
    Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan View Post

    Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?
    Very intuitive to use. I don't even think about it now, it is just as natural as riding my other road bike with brifters. I am really liking my Trek with hub and find myself wanting to ride it more. I even make up excuses to run errands on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carlton View Post
    Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.
    Sorry I don't know those bars you refer to on the SJS site. Do you have a picture saved?

    Please explain why you feel the cable routing would be a problem? The brake cable on the same side as the twist shifter could be routed in almost any direction surely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou View Post
    Will those shifters work with an internal geared hub?
    Not those exact shifters that come on those bikes. But gripshifters that work with internal hubs. Yes.
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    But the only gripshifters I know that work with internal hubs don't fit drop bars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetLou View Post
    But the only gripshifters I know that work with internal hubs don't fit drop bars.
    as I pointed out before, twist shifters will fit the noell fahrradbau drop handlebars

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