Internal Gears on Dropped-bar Bikes?
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Internal Gears on Dropped-bar Bikes?
Is there such a thing as a dropped bar bicycle with a 7, 8, or 9 speed internal geared rear hub? I know the shifters that many internal gear hubs use are not really compatable with dropped bars but I feel certain I'm not the only one who thinks that an internal hub could add the lower maintainance of a single speed with the hill-climbing advantages of multiple gears.
♣ If such a bike exists in nature can someone point me in the correct direction to find one.
♣ If such a bike does not currently exist, are there reasons (other than incompatability of the shifters on the handlebars) that I'm missing?
Thanks!
♣ If such a bike exists in nature can someone point me in the correct direction to find one.
♣ If such a bike does not currently exist, are there reasons (other than incompatability of the shifters on the handlebars) that I'm missing?
Thanks!
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https://sheldonbrown.com/harris/bianc...os8/index.html
You have to travel to Massachusetts, but I see from your signature that you know about Sheldon...
You have to travel to Massachusetts, but I see from your signature that you know about Sheldon...
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Perfect! Thanks!
I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.
I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)
I should have known that Sheldon was the man on this one. Mmmmmmm... Steel frame-a-licious.
I'll have to call Harris and see what those sell for. (Then I have to convince my wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike)
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multiple rohloff equipped drop bar bikes
https://www.rohloff.de/en/info/bikesearch/index.html
These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts. - https://www.noell-fahrradbau.de/renn.htm
https://www.rohloff.de/en/info/bikesearch/index.html
These guys make two piece drop bars so you don't have to do either drop or stem mounts. - https://www.noell-fahrradbau.de/renn.htm
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Here is one from A.N.T. with a Rolhoff hub, but I see no reason it couldn't be built with something type of hub. Also some one on the forum built up and orange bike (Schwinn IIRC) with a Nexus 8, generator hub, and drop bars as their daily do it bike.
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Exactly that - it splits near the stem so you can slide the twist shifter on (or any other things on that wouldn't normally slide on over the drops). In my opinion a much better solution than either putting the twist shifter on the drops or a stub on stem.
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I'd find myself a good old road frame with horizontal drops and have a wheel built up.
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Thanks for all the replies. I emailed Harris about the Jos8 but I have not heard back yet. I doubt I can convince the wife that we need to drive to MA to buy a bike but I'm considering a similar conversion on another SS bike. Raleigh Rush Hour imediatly popped into my mind, but I'm sure there are others that would make suitable canidates.
Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?
Bolo- Sweet ride. Is the grip shifter mounted on the drop intuitive to use?
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I ride a single-speed cruiser with coaster brake. I've noticed that normal multi-speed bikes are wider where the axle is than my cruiser. Makes sense, you've got to fit that pile of gears in. But I don't know if this causes any problems when you go sticking hub A in frame B. Something to check on at least.
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Here is the one I remembered it was just posted on another thread. Maybe PM the member and ask for the specifics.
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Been waiting and hoping shimano and/or sram would get there head out of their rectum and build us an OEM version of a normal roadbar shifter for gearhub use. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
On the other hand these guys are supposed to have a product ready or soon to be ready. https://jtekengineering.com/index.html Last I heard the prototype was made and undergoing testing. Give Jay a shout and report back.
If its like their other products it will work well and be inexpensive.
On the other hand these guys are supposed to have a product ready or soon to be ready. https://jtekengineering.com/index.html Last I heard the prototype was made and undergoing testing. Give Jay a shout and report back.
If its like their other products it will work well and be inexpensive.
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Here is one from A.N.T. with a Rolhoff hub, but I see no reason it couldn't be built with something type of hub. Also some one on the forum built up and orange bike (Schwinn IIRC) with a Nexus 8, generator hub, and drop bars as their daily do it bike.
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Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.
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Very intuitive to use. I don't even think about it now, it is just as natural as riding my other road bike with brifters. I am really liking my Trek with hub and find myself wanting to ride it more. I even make up excuses to run errands on it.
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Do you know if these are the same bars that used to be listed on SJS cycles site? I can't find them now used to have them bookmarked. The only problem I saw with them was that they were still mountain bike bar size all the way to the end of the drops. Kind of skinny and not as comfy as a normal road bar. I also envision a brake cable routing problem if the cables are routed under bar tape unless the bars are now grooved.
Please explain why you feel the cable routing would be a problem? The brake cable on the same side as the twist shifter could be routed in almost any direction surely?
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