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Old 03-21-08, 11:30 AM   #1
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no pressure bike seat

http://www.amazon.com/Schwinn-No-Pre...sbs_sg_title_4

saw one of these at walmart and was wonder if anybody else has used one?
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Old 03-21-08, 02:23 PM   #2
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There is no nose on that thing!

Harder to ride your bike without a nose on the saddle.
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I have a Townie. One of the most upright comfort bikes there are, the only thing I'd buy a seat like that for is the bow of a bassboat...and I don't even own a bassboat. I certainly wouldn't put it on any of my other bikes. But that's just me.
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Old 03-21-08, 04:46 PM   #4
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I have a Spiderflex hornless seat that I like a lot. I posted a review with some pictures at the following link,

Spiderflex hornless "comfort" seat - Initial impressions
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not to mention the thing weighs 1.7 lbs.. looks like something for an exercise bike or one of those big trikes you see in retirement areas
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Didn't Lance use one of those on his final TDF win?
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I believe the hornless saddle is one of those things (like airless tires) that keeps getting invented, rejected, and reinvented.
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I have the Ergo seat on my bike (picture) which seems to be listed on that Amazon page too. I got mine for $35 from my LBS and it looks like it's the same price on Amazon.com. The Ergo seat is flatter than the Schwinn appears to be and although I don't ride a whole lot, I've done rides up to 3 hours or so just in standard bike shorts and had no discomfort or numbness. I'm sure it's not for everyone, but for $35 it's hardly going to break the bank to try it out.
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I've got one on my Mondonico. Looks great. I can ride 5 miles without stopping once. Do they come in red?
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If a no pressure saddle is so good, why don't people just stand up?

Almost any saddle is fine if adjusted properly.
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I bought my wife a suede a couple weeks ago, it came with a sofa instead of a seat.
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I can ride 5 miles without stopping once.
5 miles? Is this suppose to be a recommendation? I would think I could ride 5 miles on any saddle without stopping or discomfort.
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5 miles? Is this suppose to be a recommendation? I would think I could ride 5 miles on any saddle without stopping or discomfort.
I was being sarcastic. I forgot to add the rolleyes smilie. I would never recommend this saddle to anyone.
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I think the idea is kind of deceptive. Do people that like it, like it because of no horn, or do they like it just because it's a wider seat? I happen to like a wider seat, which you can buy pretty cheap anywhere, and I don't see that I'd gain anything by removing part of it. For that matter, if the horn part was the problem, you could saw the front half off some narrow seats, too.
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you now, most of the complaint comments so far are not from ppl who have actually used this seat or similar.

and cynergy, I read your review and it was actually quite helpful. so overall, these types of seats are designed for touring. I wonder if it would be great for my wife, so always complains bout her butt hurting. I might see how much a seat post would cost for my bike since it was a quick release seat. this way I could switch seats for different types of riding
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you now, most of the complaint comments so far are not from ppl who have actually used this seat or similar.

and cynergy, I read your review and it was actually quite helpful. so overall, these types of seats are designed for touring. I wonder if it would be great for my wife, so always complains bout her butt hurting. I might see how much a seat post would cost for my bike since it was a quick release seat. this way I could switch seats for different types of riding
If your wife's butt is the part that hurts, then why go noseless? The noseless saddles are designed to relieve pressure on completely different part of the body (the genitals).

The width of the sit bones is the issue with butt pain, and it is also maximized when first starting out. the stock saddle on my Giant Sedona is extremely comfortable, but it took a couple of weeks to get used to sitting on something besides my sofa or car seat.

I would suggest trying a wide saddle from *mart for about $10 to see if wider is better for your wife. If that solves the problem, and after riding more she is experiencing the pressure that usually is associated with a noseless saddle, then invest in the noseless saddle.

I am not against innovation, but I am against paying for innovation designed to address a different issue than the one you are trying to address.
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I'll say it -- that thing is ridiculous. If your wife's butt hurts tell her to 1) find a saddle that properly fits her and 2) ride more often so her butt muscles tone up.

Those types of ridiculous saddles do nothing but entice people that are looking for shortcuts of which there are none other than the two-steps above.
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If you don't need one and don't understand why someone else might, you can use it's mere existence to make ignorant jokes and put-downs of those few folks who find them to be the only saddle that will allow them to ride even a small portion of the mileage they were able to ride before they became sick, disabled or injured.
It's true that one cannot grip the nose with thigh pressure and exert some control over the bike on a fast descent but if you're looking for a saddle that will allow you to ride a few miles without having to go to the ER because your urethra is unable to pass blood clots the size of jumbo raisins, this might be the type of saddle for you.
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If you don't need one and don't understand why someone else might, you can use it's mere existence to make ignorant jokes and put-downs of those few folks who find them to be the only saddle that will allow them to ride even a small portion of the mileage they were able to ride before they became sick, disabled or injured.
It's true that one cannot grip the nose with thigh pressure and exert some control over the bike on a fast descent but if you're looking for a saddle that will allow you to ride a few miles without having to go to the ER because your urethra is unable to pass blood clots the size of jumbo raisins, this might be the type of saddle for you.
The OP did not state any of the medical assumptions you make -- he only stated his wife's butt hurt. So you can dismount from your high horse.
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saw one of these at walmart and was wonder if anybody else has used one?
I've never owned one, have test-rode a couple similar types through the years.

The typical problem with mounting noseless seats on regular bicycles is that the rider tends to slide forward off the seat while pedaling. If you wanted to try something like this seat, then the better bike choice would be something like an Electra Townie, with the pedals shifted forward.
(I have not yet gotten the chance to test-ride a Spiderflex, but that seat might be the one exception)

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I would also suggest trying out some alternate bicycles if possible--recumbents like the Sun EZ-1 or Cycle Genius Sparrow cost around $700. Recumbents look odd, but are far more comfortable than any upright bike will be.

If she prefers something more "normal-looking", then for around $1K you can get a RANS Fusion or Cruz.
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I was being sarcastic. I forgot to add the rolleyes smilie. I would never recommend this saddle to anyone.
Okay, I didn't catch the sarcasm.
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Looks like it would throw way too much weight onto your arms/hands. Tried a saddle with a slot or hole in the middle? Maybe a shock seatpost?
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Looks like it would throw way too much weight onto your arms/hands. Tried a saddle with a slot or hole in the middle? Maybe a shock seatpost?
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You would be trading a saddle discomfort for unbearable agony as your shoulders, neck and arms work toward keeping you on the saddle. The pain would get worse and worse and permanent nerve damage is a real possibility. The onset of this would start as a loss of muscular support along the arm.

I have degenerative arthritis in my neck vertebrae and in 1991 I had to give up riding my mountain bike for all but the shortest distances. My physical therapist went through the biomechanics of bike riding with me and the conclusion was to avoid unnecessary weight on the shoulders and arms. A properly set up bike will reach an optimum balance between seat and hand pressures. This applies to all of us.

The bottom line is that the traditional bicycle seat has been around for many years for many good reasons. A recumbent is the only long term solution if all else fails.

BTW... to the OP, sorry for the sarcasm in a previous post. It was uncalled for. It's been a horribly long winter here in Southern WI.
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It's unfortunate that many people in the bike community think that adjusting the seat is the solution to everyone's discomfort. After trying many hornless saddles I moved to recumbents. I ride RANS crankforward bikes for the most part these days because they are the most versatile bikes available.
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That seat is a novelty item. Recumbents are for old people!
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