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Buglady 04-01-08 09:56 PM

I'm not sure if this is depressing or not...
 
Looking around for a local cycling group, I found one based near me that is for "master's" class riders. Oh, I think, that's not me, I'm a novice really.

Then I see that "masters" is an age class.

And that it starts at 30.

And that means me.

Eek...

(Anyone in Calgary? Elbow Valley Cycle Club or Crankmasters, what do you think? Or there's the Alberta Randonneurs, but I think jumping in at 200 km might be a tad foolhardy...)

Machka 04-01-08 10:17 PM

It's OK, I think I'm either in the Veteran category or knocking at the door.

I've never ridden with the Crankmasters, but I have ridden with the EVCC and they are a nice bunch of people. My membership with them, and with the Edmonton Bicycle and Touring Club has just expired, so I've got to decide what I'm going to do this year.

And I will also have an AR membership ... after all, I'm the ride organizer in Red Deer. :D

StephenH 04-01-08 10:29 PM

I would think the age break was pretty meaningless except as it relates to their membership. If you have 100 people under 30 and ten people over 30, then that's a good "old" breakpoint. If 2/3 of the membership is over 30, they'd probably want to break it down further. So it probably just means a bunch of younger people in the organization.

Machka 04-01-08 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by StephenH (Post 6446489)
I would think the age break was pretty meaningless except as it relates to their membership. If you have 100 people under 30 and ten people over 30, then that's a good "old" breakpoint. If 2/3 of the membership is over 30, they'd probably want to break it down further. So it probably just means a bunch of younger people in the organization.

It's a national age classification for riding/racing clubs: http://www.albertabicycle.ab.ca/about/licensing.php

And I see they don't have Veteran anymore!! Many moons ago, I think Masters used to be called Veteran, or maybe Veteran was over 40 or 45. Maybe they thought that just sounded too old.

And Crankmasters, the club she is referring to, is for "older" riders, like over 30. I've been curious about that club since I arrived in Alberta.

StephenH 04-02-08 06:10 AM

Looking at the breakdown, I see in BMX 20", they've got a separate category for every age up through age 16. Whereas in Cyclocross/ Road & Track/MB, they have have the Masters broken down into A, B, C, D.
I see there is not a category for 70+. THAT would be depressing.

Buglady 04-02-08 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Machka (Post 6446433)
And I will also have an AR membership ... after all, I'm the ride organizer in Red Deer. :D

I saw that :). I also saw that the Okotoks 200 is in 2 weeks and starts not 10km from my house... but seeing I haven't ridden more than 20 kms in a day since October, that might be a little much. I should probably see about one of the EVCC day rides first. Are there no sub-brevet rides this year? I thought there had been some introductory ones of 80-120 kms before.

I went back and looked at the Crankmasters ride descriptions and I don't think I'm there yet. My "new" bike is quite a bit lighter and faster than my commuter, but I'm not to the point of describing a 27kph cruising speed as "easy." I'm still averaging under 20, I think...

I just think I would learn more and be pushed a bit harder riding with a group once a week or so - although the silly Farmer's Market puts a crimp in that as well.

Buglady 04-02-08 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenH (Post 6446489)
I would think the age break was pretty meaningless except as it relates to their membership.

I'm just a little freaked out by it, that's all. Kind of the same way I was shocked to find myself classed as a "mature" student and mad to find out that I have aged out of several grants programs...

I was badly depressed through my twenties and am having something of a do-over now. It's just hard to come up against evidence that I'm really 34, not the 24 I feel. :o

Between that, my end-of-term workload, and the bursitis in my feet (threatening to become chronic arthritis), I'm feeling sorry for myself this week. Don't mind me.

Bdaisies 04-02-08 10:29 AM

One of my first jobs when I was 19 was in retail. I had a lady refer to me as "the nice lady" to her child, which made me feel pretty mature.

Buglady, I totally know how you feel.

I'm 34 now, and I don't know if I'm supposed to feel "old" or whatever. The 20's seemed like extended teenage years and though I feel like an adult now, I don't get what "old" is. I'm also treating this decade as a "do-over" :D.

Machka 04-02-08 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buglady (Post 6447852)
I'm just a little freaked out by it, that's all. Kind of the same way I was shocked to find myself classed as a "mature" student and mad to find out that I have aged out of several grants programs...

I was badly depressed through my twenties and am having something of a do-over now. It's just hard to come up against evidence that I'm really 34, not the 24 I feel. :o

Between that, my end-of-term workload, and the bursitis in my feet (threatening to become chronic arthritis), I'm feeling sorry for myself this week. Don't mind me.

Yeah, I know how you feel. I'm back in University too ... in my early 40s. I'm either the oldest student, or one of the oldest, in all my classes. I'll say something in class, like it is common knowledge, and everyone will look at me like I'm an alien.

And I'm aged out of a lot of things ... one day I might tell you about a very nasty experience I had with a company called Teach Australia. The woman accused me of being an information thief (not kidding, those were her words) because I attended one of her sessions.

And I do have arthritis in my right foot. :D

Shorter brevets (than the traditional 200K+) have never been popular outside of BC and Ontario, here in Canada. I think it is because a person can ride shorter distances with the local touring club, and they don't need to ride with a Randonneuring club for that.

I'd recommend riding with the EVCC group ... they probably won't ride at a blisteringly fast pace, but that's OK. If I were in Calgary, I'd try to get out with them as much as possible.

bkaapcke 04-02-08 11:10 AM

It depends. If the group is wearing the full spandex outfit, you might reconsider. bk

Abneycat 04-02-08 11:22 AM

I was going to look into the EVCC this year, but Otesha will probably interfere with me actually riding with them a lot.

Not like 2 months of bike touring and environmental volunteering is going to be a big loss :D

The thing about the EVCC that really interested me though, was looking at the pictures they've got on their website: riders of all ages on all sorts of bikes, from older riders, those "supermen" with the sleek aero rigs and lycra uniforms and even the occasional person on a recumbent! Seems like it would be hard *not* to fit in well with the EVCC.

Buglady 04-02-08 04:08 PM

Otesha being one of those things I'm "too old" for... grrrr.

By the way, my bike's parked at the same rack as yours today. Say hi to the Bugmobile on your way by :)

Abneycat 04-02-08 04:20 PM

I still don't know what the bugmobile even looks like :p

Oh hey, have you seen that Gazelle that someone keeps parking out in front? Thats one nice bike.


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