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    GBikes, pls. hear me out!!!!

    I know this is out there; There's E bikes, and they're ok for certain applications I'd like to open discussion on Gas Bikes... I've been down the pike (punny) as a dedicated conventional bike rider now for years: No car, hardly even ever take public trans. Did help out a friend who was trying to start E bike/scooter franchise by demo-ing his wares. For months forced myself into riding Tidalforce, ebike, many lesser types, electric Birdy, always missed just peddaling. BUT for two abstract reasons I see a niche for small engine gas powered bikes...

    One, scooting out of town if my hometown decides to evacuate. Far fetched? I live in a third world country management wise, and probably a good target city. A little assist while pulling a loaded BOB westward would be ok.

    Two, After all my experience with e bikes the limitations and battery life is horrible. Just like the Prius fad, there are little cars out there that offer 35 plus mpg, no batteries to replace and with moderate sane use are most viable.

    Why not little gas engines on bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daibutsu View Post
    Why not little gas engines on bikes?
    I believe we already have these, they're called motorcycles.
    Mes compaingnons cui j'amoie et cui j'aim,... Me di, chanson.

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    And scooters.

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    There are several kits for retro fitting a gas engine to bicycle frames, both frame mounted engines and hub gas engines. A few threads in the E-Bike sub-forum are about petrol assisted bikes.
    No shame in having an assist motor, especially for cargo bikes.

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    Wow, that was quick; so total disdain of fuel other than electrons? Where do all our electrons come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
    There are several kits for retro fitting a gas engine to bicycle frames, both frame mounted engines and hub gas engines.
    Dirty, noisy, scummy little things for the most part, aren't they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by daibutsu View Post
    Wow, that was quick; so total disdain of fuel other than electrons? Where do all our electrons come from?
    It's not disdain, really. Gas engines for bicycle applications is a fairly neglected niche, so there probably isn't a whole lot out there. On the other hand, there's a much larger market for scooters (49cc and up) and motorcycles (125/250cc and up). It's not like your next larger option is a car, here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daibutsu View Post
    Wow, that was quick; so total disdain of fuel other than electrons? Where do all our electrons come from?


    The outer shell of their parent atom.

    No, not total distain, but you will find a lot of noses pointed upward. My big ol' e-bike got a lot of ridicule at first, and after it grew an xtracycle rear end it was considered cool. Different gets attention, not all of it good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    Dirty, noisy, scummy little things for the most part, aren't they?
    Some are, some are not. The hub motors are actually fairly quiet, not silent but for what they are they are not as loud as you would expect. However some are little more than smoke pots hanging from the top tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x136 View Post
    It's not disdain, really. Gas engines for bicycle applications is a fairly neglected niche, so there probably isn't a whole lot out there. On the other hand, there's a much larger market for scooters (49cc and up) and motorcycles (125/250cc and up). It's not like your next larger option is a car, here.
    Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllenG View Post
    Some are, some are not. The hub motors are actually fairly quiet, not silent but for what they are they are not as loud as you would expect.
    Ah. Seems that most of what I've seen in this arena (and granted, I haven't looked very hard) has been stuff similar to what you'd find in areas like China or India, where not much attention is paid to... well, much of anything.

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    There is an outfit in Florida that builds a power assist honda setup that I used and liked very much,If the time came again for carrying loads on a bike Id do it again /much more comfortable in bad cool weather./Ken

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