Internal Gear Hubs with no gear selector or cable
04-10-08, 06:03 AM
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Internal Gear Hubs with no gear selector or cable
Hello,
Are there any internal gear hubs that don't have a gear cable and gear selector? I'm a novice bike rider so please save your flames.
Thanks
Are there any internal gear hubs that don't have a gear cable and gear selector? I'm a novice bike rider so please save your flames.
Thanks
04-10-08, 06:06 AM
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No, but there is what's called a Schlump (sp?) bottom bracket that you shift with your foot. It;s like having two chainrings in the front.
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04-10-08, 06:06 AM
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How would you select your gear?
I think way back when, they had some 2-speed hubs where pedaling backwards would switch it from high to low or vice-versa.
I think way back when, they had some 2-speed hubs where pedaling backwards would switch it from high to low or vice-versa.
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04-10-08, 06:25 AM
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Well yes and no. Giant makes a bike with an internal gear hub that has no actual shifter pod. It does however have a cable that runs from the front wheel, to a control box on the frame, and then to the internal gear hub.
The bicycle actually shifts itself. I have ridden them a few times, and they are pretty cool.
The bicycle actually shifts itself. I have ridden them a few times, and they are pretty cool.
04-10-08, 07:22 AM
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Don't forget the old Bendex 2-speed kickback hub. The coaster brake has a ratchet that switches between the two gears.
04-10-08, 09:13 AM
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Thanks for the info. I also found the Sachs/Torpedo was a multi speed kickback coaster too!
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04-10-08, 12:54 PM
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A little more accurate to say that Sachs made a 2-speed kickback coaster. Sachs also made a Torpedo brand 3 speed coaster hub that was shifted with a traditional trigger shift and cable setup just like S-A. An excellent reliable hub with no maintenance necessary except for a broken cable wireonce a decade or so. Pictured are three such bikes I have owned and used over the past decade equipped with a Sachs Torpedo 3 speed with standard trigger shifter.
04-10-08, 01:25 PM
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I came into this thread to say:
(A) kick back hubs
(B) Raleigh Coasting/Trek Lime/etc.
Glad to see that both options have been brought to light already.
(A) kick back hubs
(B) Raleigh Coasting/Trek Lime/etc.
Glad to see that both options have been brought to light already.
04-10-08, 06:35 PM
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Shimano has a 3-speed automatic system called "Coasting" that Trek, Giant, Raliegh, and Schwinn have equipped some bikes with.
04-10-08, 08:14 PM
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The Trek Lime is OK but you have to lift going up hill so the device can shift down. You're actually better off getting a simple three speed. Ride the bike in second gear 99% of the time, then when the hill comes, shift to 1st gear. Simple.
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Don't be afraid of shifting yourself. It's a natural action. I think I'd rather have a 'manual' than an 'automatic', since you have to help it either way by easing up, better to know exactly when. I've been riding an old Schwinn roadster with a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed hub. Looks just like the new Schwinn Coffee. I like it. It's better with the 22 tooth cog on the rear ( 46 chainwheel up front) instead of the original 18. I think the Coffee has a 22 cog standard.
I also have a derailleur bike with 6x2=12 speeds. I think at least 5 wide-range speeds is really the minimum number of speeds for a good long-distance bike. More is better to a point. If I only could have one bike, I'd want a '10+ speed' touring road bike or something similar. Don't fear derailleurs -- need a little adjustment now & then, messy to clean, but mostly trouble-free and worth it.
Hth -- good luck -- Rich
I also have a derailleur bike with 6x2=12 speeds. I think at least 5 wide-range speeds is really the minimum number of speeds for a good long-distance bike. More is better to a point. If I only could have one bike, I'd want a '10+ speed' touring road bike or something similar. Don't fear derailleurs -- need a little adjustment now & then, messy to clean, but mostly trouble-free and worth it.
Hth -- good luck -- Rich
04-13-08, 11:13 PM
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In the European market, Shimano sells an electronically-shifted Nexus 8.
https://cycle.shimano-eu.com/catalog/...=1208149960746
https://cycle.shimano-eu.com/catalog/...=1208149960746
