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    What makes a "serious" cyclists

    I see comments of how "serious" a cyclist is. It occurred to me that I judge the
    skill of the rider on a strange scale. Bike expense doesn't directly (or dramatically)
    sway the overall score. Technique and how the bike is outfitted does.
    If I see a guy on a cheap bike, with slicks, good form and fit scores higher than
    an expensive bike with a rider that wobbles in traffic, rusty chain, low tires, bobbing
    head, etc

    Shouldn't there be a "Serious" scoring guide?
    Like:
    Good fit 10pts
    Good maintenance 10pts
    Designs and builds own frame 500pts
    Wobbles -10pts

    I'd just like to know how you score yourself and others.
    Feel free to add a points system.
    Additional sets for roadies, mtb'ers, and commuters are also encouraged.

    CE

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    I became a "serious" cyclist when I started riding regularly ... when I consciously adopted this sport as something I wanted to devote some time and energy to.

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    This is a great question. I think a "serious" cyclist is one who sees it as a lifestyle, not just an occasional ride. For instance, someone who watches what they eat, drink, sleep and takes care of his/her health. It's someone who can balance all their life commitments (family, religion, job, fun).It's someone who spends time learning about the sport and techniques. While it is someone who rides, that person does not have to: be fast; own a "high end" bike and equipment; hammer in a group ride; be a snob and ignore others that are learning; and think they are a know-it-all.

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    I think a serious cyclist is someone who rides around with a frown... I try not to do that.

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    A minimum requirement as far as I'm concerned - helmet. Anyone who rides without a helmet can never be a serious cyclist in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
    A minimum requirement as far as I'm concerned - helmet. Anyone who rides without a helmet can never be a serious cyclist in my book.
    I guess that would make those thousands and thousands of commuters in the Netherlands not serious cyclist. Also, all the people here in Costa Rica who depend on bikes for transportation are just playing around I guess.

    I know the USA is obsessed about helmets, but most of the world isn't.

    Of course "serious" might mean obsessed, instead of just viewing it as a means of transportation.

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    I would have to agree that a serious cyclist is someone that rides regularly. A cyclist could own a cheap bicycle and use street clothes and still be a serious cyclist. Alternatively, a person could own a $4000 road bike and a full kit and not be a serious cyclist if they only ride once a month or so. Of course, there are many serious cyclists that own expensive gear.

    I do have to admit, I view the commuters that ride all year around in any weather condition as being the most serious cyclists.
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    Tee Hee. What a loaded/trollish question! Brought me out!

    Already brought out a dandy response from a Hysterical Helmet Safety Nanny. I'm sure there will be more self-anointed Real Cyclists rising for the chum in order to disparage those low life cyclists who don't meet their own "serious" profile.

    Short answer: Anyone who considers his riding more "serious" (or "real") than other's in order to feel superior is way too serious about himself.
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    So Im new here but, when I think of a serious cyclist I think of someone who rides good, respectful to the traffic and rides no matter what snow rain sleet or w/e

    I used to ride motorcycles and (the way I feel about it), they would be like O im a true rider and only ride during the summer when I would ride year long no matter what... To me I didnt think they were a true serious rider...

    Just my thoguhts tho =P

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    Someone who knows how to adjust & repair nearly everything on their bike.

    Well, that's a theory, anyway. I figure that if someone spends enough time riding, they'll probably do it from home, and want to keep their gear operational without having to carry it to a shop. So, they'll find out how to adjust the shifters and brakes, raise or lower the saddle, change tires & tubes, etc.

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    I was serious about bicycles at age 8. I used to pull them apart and tinker with them. Had lots of sleepless nights thinking where to mount the horn, cabled speedometer, headlight, what color to throw on the frame, etc...
    45 years later, I still think about bikes in the middle of the night......

    I think I'm a serious cyclist. I like to pose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse View Post
    Wasn't meant to be troll bait. Just looking for different points of view.

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    Ignore him. He's serious about b*tching over any use of the word "serious".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Ignore him. He's serious about b*tching over any use of the word "serious".
    Well, good. Sometimes I need someone to keep me from taking myself too seriously.
    Some people are like a Slinky ... not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nermal View Post
    Well, good. Sometimes I need someone to keep me from taking myself too seriously.
    Well, yeah, but they don't have to be sniping with derogatory remarks every chance they get.

    Such huge amounts of hate-filled speech spew from the keyboard of someone who "likes to bike".

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Well, yeah, but they don't have to be sniping with derogatory remarks every chance they get.

    Such huge amounts of hate-filled speech spew from the keyboard of someone who "likes to bike".
    Sounds like you have a bit of pent up anger there. Just do what I (and I'm sure several others) do and put ILTB on your ignore list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beingtxstate View Post
    Sounds like you have a bit of pent up anger there. Just do what I (and I'm sure several others) do and put ILTB on your ignore list.
    Don't worry; every version of him already ends up on my ignore list. I see the blocked post and just know that he's complaining again.

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    A "serious" cyclist, or a "real" cyclist?

    A serious cyclist is somebody who really needs to lighten up! Or is possibly pressed to win that next stage in order to stay in the pack.

    A real cyclist?

    I simply consider it to be a person who carries a passion for cycling. It doesn't necessarily have to be a person who rides their bike all the time.

    There are many people out there who really love building bikes, customizing them, participating in events as support or volunteer staff, advocating for improvements, building trails, promoting the sport whatever it may be!

    These guys are just as passionate about cycling as anyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Don't worry; every version of him already ends up on my ignore list. I see the blocked post and just know that he's complaining again.
    OK, I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse View Post
    Wasn't meant to be troll bait. Just looking for different points of view.

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    Understood; a new person to BF/Internet chatter on bicycling may not be aware of the use of the term "Serious" on BF by some self described "serious cyclists."

    The term Serious Cyclist/Serious Cycling as well as the modifiers Real and True Cyclist/Cycling is sometimes (usually?) used on this forum as well as elsewhere as a buzz/code word for disparagement of cyclists who don't meet the profile of the self-styled/self described Serious Cyclist.

    So what if another cyclist wobbles or his bike squeaks, or he chooses to let someone else do the maintenance? Or the horror -doesn't wear a helmet? What makes the efficient and outfitted bicyclist mechanic better or more "serious" in any dang way?

    Perhaps "obsessed," "cultish" and in some cases, not necessarily the OP's, "snobbish" may be a more accurate modifier than "serious" when describing cyclists who like to feel their "serious" cycling method, style or equipment makes them superior to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Ignore him. He's serious about b*tching over any use of the word "serious".
    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Well, yeah, but they don't have to be sniping with derogatory remarks every chance they get.

    Such huge amounts of hate-filled speech spew from the keyboard of someone who "likes to bike".
    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Don't worry; every version of him already ends up on my ignore list. I see the blocked post and just know that he's complaining again.
    What would you know Jack? Ain't you ignoring my comments and their context? You are displaying Serious stupidity IMO to keep sniping away at my comments that you haven't read and claim to ignore.
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    If you sleep with your bike I assume you are in a serious relationship...

    Just teasing folks, perhaps something other than serious. I put on a serious amount of kilometers but I don't think of myself as a serious cyclist. I am not dedicated, I don't dream of bike parts, but I do enjoy riding and I probably ride as much, if not more, than many people who think of themselves as serious. I don't rebuild bikes - and I don't have a garage full of them - but I have a nice one that I have had to replace a lot of parts because I wear them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CdCf View Post
    A minimum requirement as far as I'm concerned - helmet. Anyone who rides without a helmet can never be a serious cyclist in my book.
    Well I been riding for over 40 years and commuting for over 30 without a helmet...so I guess I am not serious in your little book...shucky darn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse View Post
    I see comments of how "serious" a cyclist is. It occurred to me that I judge the
    skill of the rider on a strange scale. Bike expense doesn't directly (or dramatically)
    sway the overall score. Technique and how the bike is outfitted does.
    If I see a guy on a cheap bike, with slicks, good form and fit scores higher than
    an expensive bike with a rider that wobbles in traffic, rusty chain, low tires, bobbing
    head, etc

    Shouldn't there be a "Serious" scoring guide?
    Like:
    Good fit 10pts
    Good maintenance 10pts
    Designs and builds own frame 500pts
    Wobbles -10pts

    I'd just like to know how you score yourself and others.
    Feel free to add a points system.
    Additional sets for roadies, mtb'ers, and commuters are also encouraged.

    CE
    If you gotta keep score, you're way too serious.
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Quote Originally Posted by crtreedude View Post
    I think a serious cyclist is someone who rides around with a frown... I try not to do that.
    You and me both...well cept when I am on the road bike wearing roadie kit...then I am expected to be an arrogant prick - and I try hard to live up to expectations!
    "Let us hope our weapons are never needed --but do not forget what the common people knew when they demanded the Bill of Rights: An armed citizenry is the first defense, the best defense, and the final defense against tyranny. If guns are outlawed, only the government will have guns. Only the police, the secret police, the military, the hired servants of our rulers. Only the government -- and a few outlaws. I intend to be among the outlaws" - Edward Abbey

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    Serious cyclists do their own wrenching. It's a threshold thing. bk

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