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    Hey from Northwest Indiana...

    Im basically just posting now because im waiting for photoshop to uninstall (who would have thought that it takes 30 minutes?).
    Ive been a lurker on this board for about a year, and im going to share my two cents on the "LBS" we hear so often.
    the LBS has been played.
    when you can save $30-$2000 buying online, your LBS needs to start buying in bulk and put up a damn website.

    "oh but you get free maintenance... blah blah blah"
    Well son, you are a sucker. If you dont know how to work on your own bike, go to the freaking library and borrow a book on bicycle repair. I bet 99.99% of the people on this forum (this being a complete guess.. I would assume there may be at least .01% of the people here with no working limbs) could learn how to work on their own stuff.
    Are you going to call your LBS when your out on a 20 mile trail in the middle of BFE?
    OF COURSE NOT! Youre going to sit down and think of a way to fix your problem, or you got a heap load of walking to do!
    "but i dont have the tools"
    Man is granted a very special gift.. the ability to think outside the box. tools are tools. There arent many tools one needs to work on their own gear. If you dont have a $200 headset press, look at what the tool does.. now replicate that cheaply... how bout a 12" long bolt and some washers? WOW, a $1.78 headset press.

    To me working on a bike is much like working on my car. If I work on my car, I know that its going to be done right (even if i dont know what im doing)!
    You learn... you use references.. you figure it out.
    If someone ELSE works on my car, im hoping the job is done correctly, because i dont want to be paying a **** load of money to have that same person fix an issue caused by them in the first place!

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    Well, welcome aboard, fellow Hoosier!

    I think you might get more responses in General Cycling though, so I'm moving your thread there. I'll leave a redirect link though.

    By the way, there are Local Bike Shops, and there are Local Bike Shops. Some are better than others. I am fortunate to have one of the real greats in my neck of the woods.
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    Hi drewdoog, it sounds as if you have not had good experiences with your LBS. That's indeed a shame, because it is important to keep the local businesses afloat. But, as Tom says, there's LBSs, and then there's GOOD LBss....

    Welcome to Bikeforums!

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    Here was the incident that started my dislike for my LBS.
    I have three in the area, all owned by the same person.
    When i was 16 yrs old, i saved for two years to buy a new bike.
    I went online and knew the bike i wanted. a trek y50
    So i take my $3800, and go down to my lbs.
    I sit there looking at the bike trying to get someones attention. After doing this for 5 minutes, i finally go up to the desk and ask if i can get some help.
    10 minutes later, the owner comes up to me and you can tell hes forcing himself to do it.
    I asked him if he would be willing to swap out the xtr (i believe they were called SIS then) for then what was a set of grip shift twisties. He then decided to tell me why rapid fire was superior to twist and if i wanted better performance to go with the RF.
    When i ride, i want to be able to dump all the gears in one motion. I dont care what are superior to you. I do not like them.
    So then he tells me the only way he could do that is if i paid to have a set sent to him from his supplier!
    I have no problem waiting for something, but are you kidding me? i have to pay for a set of inferior shifters for a bike that costs nearly $4000!?
    what, hes only probably making $700-900 on the sale, and he cant lose $35~!!
    I went online, found a site that had the bike i wanted for $200 cheaper. so i emailed and asked if they would swap out the shifters, and they said absolutley, and then asked what kind of cables and cable housing i would prefer!
    two weeks later my bike arrived at my door step just the way i wanted it, and the xtr shifters were in a bag zip tied to my seatpost.
    I then learned how to fix my bike myself.
    Ya tru a wheel.. if the wheel is less tru then when you started, you just learned one way not to do it.

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    I have to say, you didn't have a good experience with your LBS.

    But, you did learn how to fix your bike yourself. So in the long run you came out better, and the LBS owner did not.

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